IdleRich

IdleRich
Yeah before you shared that article, which used the murder/abortion example...

(think it was Ollie who shared that but whatever)

...of a consequent implied within the antecedent, I wasn’t aware of the origin of the phrase - nor yet do I understand how the phrase “begs the question” ever meant what it meant, and not what it is now used to mean. I do find it interesting. If anything, I think it could be an example of a phrase taking on a more intuitive meaning over time. But yes I also agree that in general any term or phrase losing in popular usage its semantic roots is tragic, if even justified like in this case.

I'm guessing that when one says to "beg the question" - beg here means to sort of ask the question for help or support. In other words one is asking the question for help in proving itself, which clearly can't be done.

When I see the phrase used, I find it tends to be by journalists, normally being sarcastic and thinking they're clever in this arch way of speaking "So and so did this which does rather, ahem get me, beg the question of.... " and it annoys me cos it's a kind of misplaced confidence in their own braininess - but maybe that is just me.
 

Mr. Tea

Shub-Niggurath, Please
(think it was Ollie who shared that but whatever)



I'm guessing that when one says to "beg the question" - beg here means to sort of ask the question for help or support. In other words one is asking the question for help in proving itself, which clearly can't be done.

When I see the phrase used, I find it tends to be by journalists, normally being sarcastic and thinking they're clever in this arch way of speaking "So and so did this which does rather, ahem get me, beg the question of.... " and it annoys me cos it's a kind of misplaced confidence in their own braininess - but maybe that is just me.
They have a misplaced confidence in your braininess?
 

william_kent

Well-known member
I once saw a procession of furries parade past Manchester Crown Court, but was so stunned I forgot to take pictures

anyone noticed how raggedly some of those custom costumes get?

I was watching some youtube expose of some furry celeb yesterday and they were going on about how "stinky" those suits get, but then they mentioned "fur babies" and I had to turn it off.. like, yeah, "live and let live" but some of these people and their "F-lists" cross a line...

( edit: I once saw a bunch of "Bronies" when there was a convention in Manchester, but again I forgot to take pictures )
 

version

Warehouse Operative
There's that Jon Rafman video for Oneohtrix Point Never that has some clip of a furry stuck in mud. I guess that's a particularly niche branch of the furry thing?

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william_kent

Well-known member
There's that Jon Rafman video for Oneohtrix Point Never that has some clip of a furry stuck in mud. I guess that's a particularly niche branch of the furry thing?

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ooh, reminded me of "quicksand fetish"


it's Vice, but before they got taken over by a media conglomerate
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
I admire this work ethic

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Reminds me of the Viz top tip... "Chefs, always keep a bottle of spunk in the fridge in case Michael Winner comes in and you can't get it up".
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
It occurs to me that many people won't know why Winner should be held in such high regard as to be the specific target of Viz here.

After retiring from making embarrassing films Winner became a kind of professional wanker. He wrote a newspaper column in which he took great pleasure applying impossibly high standards (of the kind which he somehow neglected to apply to his own films) to anyone who worked for him or interacted with him in any way. A typical column would feature him bragging about bullying his servants, reducing women to tears or firing people cos they served his breakfast tea one degree too hot or 30 seconds after the designated time.

He also wrote restaurant reviews which were normally spiteful and negative, hence the tip being for Chefs.

As an aside I recall one of Zodiac Mindwarp's books featuring a subtly drawn parody of him in the form of a character called Michael Loser - the name pointed in his direction but it was the description of him as "resembling Jabba the Hutt's arsehole grown legs" which made it explicit.
 
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