algorithmic indie

thirdform

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very sixth form this stuff. that arrested point between puberty and maturity. curiously lacking in seductiveness, a la Brandy. quite boysterous but overly reserved. It's as if the complications of sexual politics have not yet intruded upon the psyche.
 

thirdform

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lyrically very conformist (not common place) as well. no black market economy, the existentialism reserved for growing pains. no skunk psychosis, no shitting bricks. very much quotidian. the romance of bank managers and hr consultants. Edmund Burke would have hated it for being insufficiently conservative and aristocratic.

Mommy, daddy, look at me
I went to school and I got a degree
All my friends call it "the big D"
I went to school and I got the big D
I got the big D
I got the big D
I got the big D
I went to school and I got the big D
Is your muffin buttered?
Would you like us to assign someone to butter your muffin?
Excuse me (what?)
Excuse me (what?)
Hey you, over there
On the chaise longue in your underwear
What are you doing sitting down?
You should be horizontal now
On the chaise longue, on the chaise longue, on the chaise longue
All day long, on the chaise longue
On the chaise longue, on the chaise longue, on the chaise longue
All day long, on the chaise longue
Is your mother worried?
Would you like us to assign someone to worry your mother?
Excuse me (what?)
Excuse me (what?)
Hey you, in the front row
Are you coming backstage after the show?
Because I've got a chaise longue in my dressing room
And a pack of warm beer that we can consume
On the chaise longue, on the chaise longue, on the chaise longue
All day long, on the chaise longue
On the chaise longue, on the chaise longue, on the chaise longue

 

shakahislop

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lyrically very conformist (not common place) as well. no black market economy, the existentialism reserved for growing pains. no skunk psychosis, no shitting bricks. very much quotidian. the romance of bank managers and hr consultants. Edmund Burke would have hated it for being insufficiently conservative and aristocratic.

Mommy, daddy, look at me
I went to school and I got a degree
All my friends call it "the big D"
I went to school and I got the big D
I got the big D
I got the big D
I got the big D
I went to school and I got the big D
Is your muffin buttered?
Would you like us to assign someone to butter your muffin?
Excuse me (what?)
Excuse me (what?)
Hey you, over there
On the chaise longue in your underwear
What are you doing sitting down?
You should be horizontal now
On the chaise longue, on the chaise longue, on the chaise longue
All day long, on the chaise longue
On the chaise longue, on the chaise longue, on the chaise longue
All day long, on the chaise longue
Is your mother worried?
Would you like us to assign someone to worry your mother?
Excuse me (what?)
Excuse me (what?)
Hey you, in the front row
Are you coming backstage after the show?
Because I've got a chaise longue in my dressing room
And a pack of warm beer that we can consume
On the chaise longue, on the chaise longue, on the chaise longue
All day long, on the chaise longue
On the chaise longue, on the chaise longue, on the chaise longue

one quirk of popular indie land in england is that every now and then something like this tune comes along and for some reason everyone likes it for a few months, and in a year everyone will think it's shit. because it is shit. but there's something about it which is quite captivating right now; probably the spoken word thing and the clunky words, and the odd sex thing that's going on
 

shakahislop

Well-known member
one quirk of popular indie land in england is that every now and then something like this tune comes along and for some reason everyone likes it for a few months, and in a year everyone will think it's shit. because it is shit. but there's something about it which is quite captivating right now; probably the spoken word thing and the clunky words, and the odd sex thing that's going on
really reminds me of this from 15 years ago in lots of ways. obviously shit, to everyone, but people loved it

 

pattycakes_

Can turn naughty
one quirk of popular indie land in england is that every now and then something like this tune comes along and for some reason everyone likes it for a few months, and in a year everyone will think it's shit. because it is shit. but there's something about it which is quite captivating right now; probably the spoken word thing and the clunky words, and the odd sex thing that's going on

Like modern art, based on quirks. Totally left brained. Nothing to get attached to.
 

shakahislop

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Like modern art, based on quirks. Totally left brained. Nothing to get attached to.
the lack of depth, by which i mean what nothing to get attached to as you say, is part of the appeal i think. i mean in the chaise longe one there is something going on in terms of 'exactly how much irony is there in this and where specifically is it located' so its not braindead
 

shakahislop

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i suppose at least part of what's going on with a micro-phenomenon like this is at least its not boring. it might be a bit shit but it's not boring, especially compared to the pop-indie milieu. it stands out. actually in the last minute or so it sounds a lot more like everything else. but the spoken word thing is a bit new.
 

forclosure

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Funny thing to me is that there's people who were really into this stuff at the time who wouldn't dare say so now they pretend that the were listening to the same crackly Crazy Titch freestyles as the "chavs" they hated
 

thirdform

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Like modern art, based on quirks. Totally left brained. Nothing to get attached to.

in a weird way, and why it's far far inferior for me, is because It's actually the inverse of deeper house and techno. that tends to take you out of your body and submerge you in the liquid depths through adult, sophisticated dubby repetition. This stuff is like high school musical III on loop. no peaks no troughs just an endless modulation of early adolescent euphoria.

It's not like prog rock with its jerks and shudders, it's entirely slavishly dedicated to a very 60s-derived basic pop song form of music with no variation whatsoever. The difference between this stuff and kaleidoscope or procol Harem is 60s baroque pop was trying to expand the vocab of pop songs, for better or worse.
 

shakahislop

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uk and us indie are such totally different things, but for some reason no-one has bothered to give them different names
 

thirdform

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I hasten to add procol harem were crap, cribbing bach for the rock crowd and trying to make a song out of that. But it was something.
 

thirdform

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it gets a bit more interesting with this Wolf Alice one. But it's Liz Fraser without the glosalalia/speaking in tongues. Why don't these coral voices take you right out?
 

thirdform

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Very sex therapist called Tabitha or cassandra this stuff. Submerged incel music for intellectuals. The lacanian confrontation with the dark god and the inability to resist the sacrifice.

 

thirdform

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the lathums - fight on.

People trying to emulate Teenage Jesus and the Jerks and Mars without having heard of their music. Not sure what I can say about this stuff. Just really boring lads. At least one can want to partake in a sort of homosocial kiki with buju banton.
 

thirdform

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I suppose this stuff fills the role of folk music for the Swindonish mandem.

But it's curiously detached. Not like adaptations of Matty Groves a la Fairport Convension.

I never thought I'd be saying this, because I hate this in metal, but I think indie needs to be more medieval, more about duels, horses, guns, feuds, all that good stuff.
 
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