Leo

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I see lots of people having it both ways, separating the person from the monarchy. saying they of course detest all the colonization and the royals being supported financially by the people, but Elizabeth as a person as a positive influence, did lots of good things, the adult in the room, etc.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
is this something you noticed in people before and have just given it a new name or do you now see the world anew? like the glasses in They Live
Sadly I don't think it's as revelatory as that... but I do think - assuming I'm using it correctly - that it quite neatly pinpoints something about Charlie that none of those other terms such as straight or square capture. I would always have said that there was some way in which he differs from most other people I know.

Or, alternatively, I've got a new hammer and suddenly everything looks like a nail ie I convinced myself it fits him perfectly cos it was fresh in my mind and I was talking to him.

One thing which is sort of interesting maybe. I kind of took you to task earlier when you said it wasn't an insult cos I kind of found that hard to believe that you could describe this friend of yours as normie without it meaning that somehow you thought less of him or looked down on him. But I genuinely do like Charlie and identifying him or labelling him in this way isn't intended as an insult. Although I don't think I will tell him. He is quite a smart guy, part of me does want to raise it with him and discuss it and see what he thinks. Maybe I could approach it obliquely and just ask him if he has heard that word and what he understands by it.
 

version

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The speech addresses the dissenting notion by saying these miniscule differences gets stretched out along a massive chain and a small difference gets multiplied to the point of significance in the macro. And you cant convince hathaways character of the difference to begin with the same way you cant point out the differences between a child's scribbles and an ab ex painting to a dissenter- its not about the belt or the paintings, its about the process. Wintour's character understands that and rebuttals with a defense of her process, not the belts which are insignificant.

Fair enough.
 

Leo

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Fair enough.

I've always loved this response (not thinking about this conversation per se, but in general). it makes the other party feel they've made a valid point and defuses the level of confrontation, yet is also explicitly not an admission that you were wrong about anything. a win-win but, similar to putting "cheers :)" at the end of an email, also with the implicit, good-natured F U.
 

shakahislop

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There's that Mike Brodie guy who did a photography book on train hopping and stuff too,


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i was in cuenca ecuador about ten years ago living in a little house for $60 a month, writing a dissertation, came across these photos the night before i left and have thought about them but not seen them since, though thinking about it now i probably could have found them online pretty easily. incredibly evocative photos. actually padraig that's why i asked about the trains, coz i remembered these photos. when i saw them i was getting a flight to nyc the week after, having never set foot in america before, and obviously i wanted to go and jump some trains. but it looked dangerous and i didn't have the first idea of how to do it. so never did it. i ended up at occupy wall street instead which was also a great thing to do. but the combination of the activity (freight trains) and the clothes and all of that in those photos was a very romantic thing for me when i saw it. so many things i like wrapped up in the same package.

pretty confident in saying that there's nothing like this in europe, no equivalent.
 

Mr. Naga Pickle

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amazing, where did you go after?
The most exciting and glamorous metropolis in the Americas and also the original, secret home of New Orlean's Bounce Music:

Eugene, Oregon.

Lived there for like a year and a half, moved overseas for about five years (mostly Asia), returned to the US (Florida), and now live in the Midwest.

Did you say you lived in Chigaco?
 

Leo

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"There exists, for lack of a better term, a scenester vs. normie dichotomy that most of us aren't ready to acknowledge," Paragon owner John Barclay told RA. "The scenesters are hotter and cooler and certainly dance better but they spend no money. The normies are generally more annoying and less respectful of dance culture but are willing to pay what it costs to keep the scene alive." He added: "Without the normies we have no way of paying the rent, DJs and staff. Without the scenesters the culture devolves into Señor Frog's. We need both for the ecosystem to survive and it's not an easy balance to strike."

Do New York clubs need stricter door policies?
 

shakahislop

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tricky one isn't it. the guy from Basement they quote isn't wrong. but that's a place i hesitate to go to coz no fucking way am i travelling to maspeth / ridgewood at 1am only to get turned down coz my clothes aren't black enough. maybe that's the point.

that said it would be nice if there was a door policy to come below 14th st and keep shirt dickheads and woo girls from drinking on my street

they don't mention house of yes, that's an interesting one coz it's a far out space but isn't obscure at all, everyone seems to know about it. not sure how they keep the vibes up.

i love the security guys at st vitus. a way easier task keeping metallers in check than a techno club, but it's brilliant compared to the shit way you usually get treated by security at gigs. terminal 5 feels like a hostile environment. knockdown is the same, feels like an airport
 
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IdleRich

IdleRich
Val shared a recent experience at Nowadays. "There was somebody who was on the dance floor, who I have to assume was a cis man, probably middle-aged, a little older than the average Nowadays guest. And, he was just very blatantly leering at me. And I handled it the way that I always handle this, which is that I walked up to him and was very friendly and said, 'Hey, can I help you with something?' And he was like, 'Oh, hey, baby, you're really beautiful. Will you teach me how to dance?' And I said to him, 'This is not that kind of club.'"
Fucking hell that's awful!
 

Leo

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yeah, tough call. at the same time, leaning into barring those "who are not from the community" can get dodgy. today's world is all about inclusion and diversity, except when a club wants to have a certain a vibe. hard to have it both ways.

also love how they use every description of the undesirables except for the one they actually mean: drunk straight white bros.
 

version

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It does go on to say the bloke was kicked out for making other people uncomfortable too though, so it sounds like he was told no then kept trying it on until everyone got fed up and had him ejected.
 
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