Canonic Albums by Artists Who You Love and Revere But For Some Reason This One Bypasses You Almost Completely

blissblogger

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Velvet Underground - White Light, White Heat

The Beatles - The Beatles aka White Album

The Band - Music From Big Pink

David Bowie - "Heroes"

Can - Ege Bamyasi

Rolling Stones - Exile on Main Street

(exceptions with these albums being The Obvious Singles e.g. "'Heroes'", "The Weight" - even when it isn't literally a single (was "Vitamin C" a single? Perhaps it was in Germany) - and sometimes there's like one other track you really like e.g. "The Secret Life of Arabia")
 

blissblogger

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Albums you grudgingly respect / dutifully acknowledge the objective eminence but when push comes to shove you never actually want to play / could happily never hear again - bar the aforementioned high point(s).
 

droid

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Heroes has something, but it isnt a lovable album. The a-side is hysterical, frantic and disjointed, but there are some lovely ambient pieces on the flip.

Id say the same about scary monsters, I could never get into it. Lodger is pretty shit as well, but it's not really highly regarded.
 

thirdform

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Bowie is fucking shit. I get that in 73 he seemed like a good proposition when there was no Alternative TV, but come on! You have options, choices!
 

shakahislop

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can't listen to it much now coz for some reason its grating, but for about a decade i would have told you that 70s neil young was some of my favourite music, so its more loved and revered than love and revere. but even when i loved all that i always thought after the goldrush was a bit wet. the lyrical mysticism was always offputting to me, and that album is very much part of the neil young 'classic' canon, squarely categorized by most people as part of the golden era.
 

martin

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Agree about Funhouse–sounds like they recorded it on mogs, and Side 2’s total crap. Mind you, I heard Raw Power first, so the first 2 albums were never really going to cut it.

Lee Perry – Super Ape. Of all his albums, why is this seen as the ‘pinnacle’? I don’t mind it at all, but it’s the one I listen to the least. Scratch kinda playing it safe on this one.

Cocteau Twins – Treasure. Hell will freeze over before I fathom how anyone could rate this above Head Over Heels or Garlands. First two tracks might be listed ‘Slimelight – Floor 2’ anthems but they would’ve been better off as a single. The guitarist later described this album as an ‘abortion’ which is a bit harsh...but fair.

Not a band I really love, but I reckon the only reason people hail Death Church by Rudimentary Peni as a stone-cold classic is they want to inflate the price of their copies on Discogs. A few bright sparks on Side 1, but overall…a plodding, mediocre album that seems to go on a lot longer than its 32 minutes. Their ‘Farce’ EP was much better.
 

blissblogger

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Heroes has something, but it isnt a lovable album. The a-side is hysterical, frantic and disjointed, but there are some lovely ambient pieces on the flip.

Id say the same about scary monsters, I could never get into it. Lodger is pretty shit as well, but it's not really highly regarded.

i can never remember the side 2 atmospheres on 'Heroes', whereas the Low side 2 is engraved in my heart

actually prefer Lodger - or at least it's got 2 great singles Boys Keep Swinging, and DJ, and Repetition, which is unusual, and a few other bits

Scary again it's the singles - Ashes, Fashion, Up the Hill Backwards.... the title track is silly but alright. 'kingdom come' is enjoyably histrionic. the first track is impressively ugly. he's pushing his voice into all kinds of unpleasant zones.
 

blissblogger

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Funhouse opinion is a MADNESS (side 1 = greatest rock album, or half the greatest rock album ever) but this is the point of this exercise, to appall each other

I agree the second side is utterly deflated.

Totally in accord re. Treasure. A couple of nice tunes but overall goes into the Zone of Fruitless Preciosity. The Zone of Fruitless Froufrou even.
 

william_kent

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"loved and revered" is a bit strong, but for starters:

CAN - Tago Mago

would have been a decent single album, but 3 strong tunes on the first disc and a bunch of filler on the second mystifies me why it is 'canonical"

Heroes has something

Robert Fripp's guitar on "Heroes" is what that album has, the rest is gash
 

blissblogger

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here's one to appall Droid

...I Care Because You Do

Apart from the sublime "Alberto Balsam" nothing from this Aphex album has ever managed to lodge itself in the memory or the heart, despite periodic attempts at "giving it another go"
 

blissblogger

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You're going to convince me that "Aumgn" is anything other than pissing about filler?

that's probably one of my three favorite things on the record.

Mind you I also like "Peking O" which is faffing around in the studio

It's the long, long James Brown-ish one where I glaze out a bit

i think it could be a perfect 1-and-half album rather than a double. Like a three-sided LP.

It does seem to be the canonical choice though - the one that Julian Cope would rate (and see as much better than the post-Damo albums)
 

william_kent

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I suppose my problem with Can is that my introduction was via the Cannibalism compilation which was all killer, so when I eventually picked up the original albums some of the (filler) tracks were a wee a bit lacking
 
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martin

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The Zone of Fruitless Froufrou
Can imagine Mark E Smith snarling that.

I guess Fun House vs Raw Power should be polarising, with the different guitar styles. Ron Asheton sounds like he’s smoked several blunts and is tripping out on an all-night jam, while James Williamson plays like a Vietnam vet with PTSD who’s just snorted a bag of speed and then been told he’s got 30 minutes to lay down the tracks before a bomb goes off in the studio. I guess I prefer the latter.
 

blissblogger

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I suppose my problem with Can is that my introduction was via the Cannibalism compilation which was all killer, so when I eventually picked up the original albums some of the (filler) tracks were a wee a bit lacking
I had a similar thing with Doors albums, having heard two different single-LP compilations of best bits, and then the double album Weird Scenes Inside the Gold Mine, long long before I ever heard an original Doors album all the way through. In fact I only heard the debut or Strange Days when the CDs came out around 1990 - so that's like a decade gap. So the incredible impact the debut had on people when it came out in 1967 was largely lost - the famous bits were overfamiliar, the less famous bits seemed a bit slight - they weren't carried along by the excitement of the high points as must have been the case when heard in historical real-time.

It's also been the same with the Beatles and the Stones, having listened endlessly to the two 'staring down the EMI stairwell' double comps of early Beatles and 66 to end-of, and listened to Rolled Gold, the singles + odd album highpoint comp, with the Stones. I don't think any Beatles album has quite made sense to me as an album-album as a consequence. E.g. the sequencing of Revolver (this would be another thread - album sequencing - ones that are sublime, righteous, inevitable, no other way it could be - and ones that don't make any sense, perhaps how could they ever, given the motley constituents and diversity)

Now I think about it, I had Bowie's Changes for years before ever hearing a full-album with the one exception of Scary Monsters, taped off a friend.

Hearing things out of sequence also has funny effects - Station to Station doesn't sound impressive to me because I had heard Low many years before - so the advance that listeners in 1976 heard, the sense of going somewhere, what will he do next - I had already heard "next", Station felt insta-superceded. (Objectively as I can be I do think it's overrated as a record - it would fit this thread perfectly in fact)

I did hear the Stooges in more or less the right order and consequently Raw Power, great songs and performances notwithstanding, is vitiated by the Bowie mix which feels over-separated and puny c.f. Funhouse's thick marauding murk

Must be even more scrambled for your streaming-era kids - history's all a jumble, tracks spilling out willy-nilly, out of sequence, decontextualized. I find this with the students I'm teaching - where a song sits in an artist's arc, and where it sits in History, is a/ rarely known to them b/ utterly irrelevant to them. Perhaps that's a better way of listening.
 
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