This is the only thing on Trout Mask I ever feel like playing
Vocally Beefheart's whole thing is based in Howlin' Wolf.
Otherwise it's Clear Spot all the way. And "Booglarize You, Baby"
i think it's funny (and i don't find zappa funny). sorry but i just have no idea how to connect what you've written to what i'm hearing when i put the album on. are there any formal qualities you could pin your (characteristically thoughtful, ofc) impression on, or specific moments you could mention?well for one thing, is it really funny? like actually laughing funny? it's "humorous" sure, but those kinds of words are just excuses.
the whole dada thing just registers as a sort of comfortable weirdness. for weirdness to have any value, it has to engage itself with some deeper level of "normalcy," everyday ways of being and seeing and constructing onself. the role of irony is to pull these taken-for-granted expressions out of their context and show them to be contingent and constructed so the deeper foundations are called into question. weirdness has to be existential, in another word.
when you are weird like trout mask replica is weird, saying all these absurd subversive things, then there is a claim involved that you have taken a step outside of everyday reality. otherwise what are you really doing? and to me there's is something in the music that doesn't hold up to that. something in the voice particularly I think. but also in the ambition of the music. yes it sounds strange to the ear but in another way it's still safe and normal. emotionally it just continues to feel sort of grounded in everyday expressions. so the weirdness becomes sort of shallow to me.
whereas the Buckley album, there is another wheightlessness to it completely. it sounds to me is someone who has really taken that step, cut off his footing in everyday normalcy, and is floating freely. the weirdness becomes psychedelic.
There's a fishing documentary called Tarpon with a decent Jimmy Buffett soundtrack; nice and lazy with shimmering shots of the Key West waters.
On which note...
He's just a great bluesman...
Never much liked Clear Spot, but okay, I'll go and listen to it again.
people always cite mirror man as a sort of stepping stone to trout mask replica but in a way it's a very different album. it's groove-based rather than melody-based. its structures flex and buckle considerably without breaking rather than constantly shattering and rebuilding.
it's a blues record, but then what is the point of the experimentation? what does it communicate to you?i think it's funny (and i don't find zappa funny). sorry but i just have no idea how to connect what you've written to what i'm hearing when i put the album on. are there any formal qualities you could pin your (characteristically thoughtful, ofc) impression on, or specific moments you could mention?