Explain to an american how lizz truss resigning can happen

[linebaugh]

The Bank of England claimed they had to step in to stop millions in private pensions being wiped out.

that doesnt sound all that different than what the Fed and whatever other agencies do here and there are not consequenses like this is my point

 

[version]

You can't really take it as an isolated policy misstep. It's the latest in a long line of increasingly destructive scandals and blunders. There's been a feeling of lurching from one disaster to another for years now.

 

[linebaugh]

that sounds exactly like america, that was the source of my confusion. we figured it out though

 

[Mr. Tea]

You have the citizens and the party, but the party is split into MPs and members, she was selected by the members but not the MPs or the ciitzens

Well, sort of - remember that Tory MPs first get to whittle down the field of candidates to just two, and then the party membership gets to select one of those.

 

[sus]

I cant imagine either political party in america ever turning on their elected leader

Politicians here betray their mandates constantly—it's just that they + the party are very good at lawyerly language spins, so that it never appears as if the mandate has been betrayed.

 

[sus]

In fact I would probably struggle more to think of a Prez who didn't betray core election promises, than one who did.

 

[WashYourHands]

wait until Biden drops and wannabe Proud Boy disgust-gurners have to deal with Harris

 

[sus]

That's the whole game! You promise a buncha garbage while campaigning which you may or may not believe. Then you get onboarded and the deep state tells you why XYZ isn't feasible, or why XYZ is actually necessary. Maybe classified information changes their minds. Maybe they were full of shit to begin with. Who knows—either way, there are usually significant reversals within the first few months.

 

[WashYourHands]

this is news to Gus apparently

 

[linebaugh]

That's the whole game! You promise a buncha garbage while campaigning which you may or may not believe. Then you get onboarded and the deep state tells you why XYZ isn't feasible, or why XYZ is actually necessary. Maybe classified information changes their minds. Maybe they were full of shit to begin with. Who knows—either way, there are usually significant reversals within the first few months.

this is why I was initially confused. Where were the whispers in Truss's ear? but weve learned alot today.

 

[IdleRich]

Politicians here betray their mandates constantly—it's just that they + the party are very good at lawyerly language spins, so that it never appears as if the mandate has been betrayed.

Read my lips, no new taxes

 

[IdleRich]

this is why I was initially confused. Where were the whispers in Truss's ear? but weve learned alot today.

I think it was economic collapse screaming in her face.

 

[Slothrop]

But pms resign all the time you say.

Historically it's been very rare, which I think is the reason that no-one's thought too hard about the system. Party leaders normally resign or get the boot after they lose elections, or occasionally when their party is out of power and showing no signs of regaining it under their leadership. I think we've had 6 serving PMs resign in the last 50 years, it's just that four of them have been since 2016.

 

[linebaugh]

I think it was economic collapse screaming in her face.

yes, but again, in america someone would have whispered in truss's ear and said 'hey this wont work,' she would have never been in this position. why that didnt happen is the reason for this thread.

 

[linebaugh]

Im not making light of the situation in the UK I was jsut looking for a more zoomed out, meta understanding. There are many ways a system deals with economic collapse, fractured political parties and incompetent leadership, why was this the route taken is the question

 

[WashYourHands]

it’s ok, we make light of yours

 

[version]

yes, but again, in america someone would have whispered in truss's ear and said 'hey this wont work,' she would have never been in this position. why that didnt happen is the reason for this thread.

She was repeatedly told it wouldn't work and so were the members who voted for her.

 

[IdleRich]

yes, but again, in america someone would have whispered in truss's ear and said 'hey this wont work,' she would have never been in this position. why that didnt happen is the reason for this thread.

Cos she was in hock to rich interests and they overruled all else.

 

[shakahislop]

this is brilliant

 

[shakahislop]

whenever it is that labour finally get it, it's going to be interesting to see how the more boring left-wing commenters and laymen deal with it. all these people's internet use came of age under the tories, they've never had to have online opinions under a labour government before