The HEAVIEST bassline EVER

william_kent

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I wish I could find my copy of Jah Tubby's at the PSV,, Hulme, M15, Manchester, which has the best augmented ( syndrome explosion ) version of Marvin Brooks Cheer Up Blackman ever


Marvin Brooks - Cheer Up Blackman Version

Jah Shaka crapped out, was supposed to be a clash, but Manc too ruff ( faulty memory at work here! )
 

version

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I wish I could find my copy of Jah Tubby's at the PSV,, Hulme, M15, Manchester, which has the best augmented ( syndrome explosion ) version of Marvin Brooks Cheer Up Blackman ever


Marvin Brooks - Cheer Up Blackman Version

Jah Shaka crapped out, was supposed to be a clash, but Manc too ruff ( faulty memory at work here! )

The full thing that tune's clipped from's brilliant.

 

IdleRich

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of course, again, this raises ( not "begs"!* ) the question of "what is heavy?"

Was gonna ask that, does it just mean the loudest bass relative to the rest of the song, or the deepest or something? I actually truly don't know - now you say it - what it means for a bassline to be heavy? In which direction or dimension does something have to move to get heavier? Is there a unit of heaviness and if so what is it?

And does it have to be a good bassline? Doesn't heavy have some sort of implied qualitative judgement in there? I mean it would be a bit of a shame wouldn't it, if it could be objectively measured, and we found what we all had to agree WAS the heaviest bassline ever, but it was a really rubbish one.


*good lad
 

william_kent

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That is beyond all reason! Honestly I was thinking that this thread couldn't claim to be comprehensive or definitive until you had got involved.


can't help feeling Kevin Martin might have have heard this previous to his own mixing effort


Beatnigs - Television ( On-U Sound Mix )

fair enough, it has no bass weight, but "heavy" in it's own way...
 

version

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BURROUGHS: Did you ever hear about something called infra-sound?

PAGE: Uh, carry on.

BURROUGHS: Well, infra-sound is sound below the level of hearing. And it was developed by someone named Professor Gavreau in France as a military weapon. He had an infra-sound installation that he could turn on and kill everything within five miles. It can also knock down walls and break windows. But it kills by setting up vibrations within the body. Well, what I was wondering was, whether rhythmical music at sort of the borderline of infra-sound could be used to produce rhythms in the audience–because, of course, any music with volume will set up these vibrations. That is part of the way the effect is achieved.

 

william_kent

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can I mention Hawkwind?


Hawkwind - Orgone Accumulator ( 1973 )

I can't be arsed to dig up the Dik Mik quotes about infrasound and making audiences puke, but Lemmy's bass solo on this tune around the 6:30 plus minute mark raises the hairs on the back of my neck
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
I got this album, I honestly never can work out if it's supposed to be at 45 or 33 but at the latter it has some bass on it. Well, it seems obvious it should be at 33 like all albums and so that the spoken word samples (including the Robocop "You're gonna be a bad motherfucker" one) are at the right speed but I think I have seen people saying it should be at 45 so I dunno - clearly he had no time to give any information to those buying it or to think up any track names or really do anything apart from bosh out eight slow mo bass workouts.

Sounds totally lame on this link anyway



I was trying to remember the name of that previous record and I flicked through a pile to find it, on the way I saw this one which has... well, the fuzzy sound but does this count as bass or not I dunno? Totally different in the way it is achieved to all the reggae etc stuff but I love it - and on my laptop sounds way fatter and thicker than the Gea one to my surprises



And someone on this website (who was it? Great tip anyway, cheers) recommended this record (which isn't a record it's a tape) and I immediately bought it cos I always wanted krautrockaiblly to exist and now it does, love the sounds from about 3.50 in, they are sort of bassy I think though as to whether they constitute a bassline I couldn't say



Again from the non-dub part of the bass world I love this track, I suppose in part cos it's a huge rip-off of Mother Sky, but from about 5.35 the noises that come in... it feels like all sorts of weird twisted in upon themselves and broken sounds are crashing into the song from above, smashing it open, brutally tearing it to pieces... in particular the bit with this blissful bass fuzz crunching in and overpowering it all and lifting it from a mere Mother Sky rip-off to an almighty Mother Sky rip-off with loads of cool noises on it.


 
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william_kent

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Was gonna ask that, does it just mean the loudest bass relative to the rest of the song, or the deepest or something? I actually truly don't know - now you say it - what it means for a bassline to be heavy? In which direction or dimension does something have to move to get heavier? Is there a unit of heaviness and if so what is it?

And does it have to be a good bassline? Doesn't heavy have some sort of implied qualitative judgement in there? I mean it would be a bit of a shame wouldn't it, if it could be objectively measured, and we found what we all had to agree WAS the heaviest bassline ever, but it was a really rubbish one.


*good lad

good questions!

when i think of "the heaviest bassline" I'm probably looking for "weight" and "intensity" which by my reckoning preclude "rubbish" notes and musicality
 

william_kent

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Again from the non-dub part of the bass world I love this track, I suppose in part cos it's a huge rip-off of Mother Sky, but from about 5.35 the noises that come in... it feels like all sorts of weird twisted in upon themselves and broken sounds are crashing into the song from above, smashing it open, brutally tearing it to pieces... in particular the bit with this blissful bass fuzz crunching in and overpowering it all and lifting it from a mere Mother Sky rip-off to an almighty Mother Sky rip-off with loads of cool noises on it.


so pleased you've embraced Minami Deutsch!
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
BURROUGHS: Well, infra-sound is sound below the level of hearing. And it was developed by someone named Professor Gavreau in France as a military weapon. He had an infra-sound installation that he could turn on and kill everything within five miles.

It feels like a modern update of the Monty Python thing, I imagine that they thought "What would be a way of being killed that you wouldn't mind cos it would be sort of pleasurable?" - and then they came up with the idea of a joke that was so funny that on hearing it you would laugh yourself to death. And, if you're in a war and you're gonna get killed by the other side then surely most would choose that kind of thing over mustard gas or being bayoneted in the goolies - being forcibly shown a joke so funny that you die is about as good a death as you can reasonably hope to have inflicted on you by an opposing army. But for those who prefer clubbing to stand-up and dancing to laughing, then the modern equivalent to this is probably being basslined to death
 

IdleRich

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good questions!

when i think of "the heaviest bassline" I'm probably looking for "weight" and "intensity" which by my reckoning preclude "rubbish" notes and musicality
I notice that no-one has tried to answer them (unless I missed it) so we're just getting loads of random bassy stabs in the dark without anyone really knowing what they're going for.
 

william_kent

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when I first "played out" with the "free party sound system" I span this tune ( Iand by tune I mean the dub, I've set the youtube video to start at the CORRECT point )


Bunny Lie Lie / King Tubby - Special Version

I asked how it went, and the owner of the sound said "it was intense"

bass weight + intensity = crushing feeling in the ribs, submerged in bass, cannot breathe, you feel it, can't deny the bass
 
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