Who Killed JFK?

Mr. Tea

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yes it's definitely true that everybody is ignoring the very real non-sexy underwear magnate tory ppe conspiracy that is on the front cover of the msm guardian today for sure
I think we'd have to see the underwear before judging how sexy or otherwise it is.
 

Mr. Tea

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And nobody used the word "ignored" until you did, @sufi. Of course these stories have been reported in the media, which is how we know about them. The argument is that they get little traction with the sort of people for whom being really into conspiracies is a major part of their personality.
 

luka

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there's an argument that goes if the masses weren't so distracted by pop music/football/beer/consumerism/conspiracy theories
they would be so utterly bored they would spontaneously erupt into revolution, but i've never bought it.
 

Leo

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People in general are lazy as fuck. they need a catalyst to erupt into revolution, utter boredom itself probably wouldn't set them off.
 

Mr. Tea

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Yeah, I don't buy that. I've never heard it before though. The argument I've always heard is if everyone weren't distracted they'd pay more attention to how badly they were being fucked over and explode with rage.
Panem et circenses, innit.
 

WashYourHands

Cat Malogen
Could it have been staged or faked? Early special effects head eruption “back and to the left Mr Kubrick, you can manage that for us, yes? your career will be gold. remember slumping, security climbing over the back of the car so Mr Kennedy can live out his days on a farm in Galway”. You have to balance redpilled cul-de-sacs with humour. As toxic as its consequences can be, the field does have synchronous anomalies because seriality is part of chaos

JFK’s a strange one for its impact and the culture around it. Assassinations are full of historical plotting fair to say? Teams following orders can be organised by numerous agencies and organisations, or a single actor intervenes. They seem embedded in US history and are subsequently foregrounded in western stock footage, from Lincoln to the 60’s. Quite hard to get away from and a bit boring not to sound too cynical - people die every day from worse. MLK, Mal X, younger Kennedy? What can I do about it? And that’s what’s striking about conspiracy thinking at its core - an entire dynamic built on personal involvement in the grand narratives and an illusory sense of agency

I have no affinity to a dead president or the office Kennedy held, despite indulging conspiracy exactly as entertainment, eg Craig Charles ufo wank on Sky. DeLillo could have offered images of deeper inquiry into identity through anonymity with people on phones waiting on calls, as much as men in small rooms but he has to promote his own work views too
 

Leo

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Why is pays to get a house with extra closet space, never know when you may need to have auntie over for a very extended visit.
 

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
yes it's definitely true that everybody is ignoring the very real non-sexy underwear magnate tory ppe conspiracy that is on the front cover of the msm guardian today for sure
idk how serious you're being but yeah it's very difficult to imagine that 60 years from now there will still be an entire cottage industry devoted to untangling the Tory PPE conspiracy. ofc it's good that it's receiving the attention it is, and hopefully some of the funds can be recovered/the guilty suffer some kind of consequences (not holding my breath, but you never know).
 

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape

@version deleted the post but this tweet is actually a great example of how conspiracy theorists selectively use information to bolster their cases and ignore it when it contradicts them

there was a third reporter present, Willie Allen. he was still alive and well and talking about the assassination as of 2013.

also present: Ruby's roommate George Senator, who died in 1992, and three lawyers. one of whom, Tom Howard, died of a heart attack (officially, anyway) two years later. Couldn't find information on the other two lawyers but presumably they lived long enough and had natural enough deaths not to attract the attention of conspiracy theorists. there's also the guy who represented Ruby during his actual trial, celebrity lawyer Melvin Belli, who lived until 1996.

it took me about 5 minutes to turn up all that information

again you can't prove a negative - that the other deaths weren't suspicious - but obviously it makes the case for a coverup much stronger if you leave out that other people with presumably the same information lived for decades after
 

Leo

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I liked their second album best

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padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
One thing which often seems to get lost in the JFK stuff is that the family had some pretty dark secrets of its own, e.g. one of the sisters undergoing a forced lobotomy and being stuffed away in an institution somewhere.
it's probably fading now as that generation of Kennedys recedes into history but when I was growing up the Kennedy Curse - Rosemary (the lobotomized one), Chappaquiddick, etc in addition to JFK and RFK, and eventually JFK Jr.'s plane crash - was something probably a great majority of Americans still had at least some familiarity with
 

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
there's an argument that goes if the masses weren't so distracted by pop music/football/beer/consumerism/conspiracy theories
they would be so utterly bored they would spontaneously erupt into revolution, but i've never bought it.
I do agree with this. by and large the only thing that has been enough to cause popular revolutions (i.e. discounting revolutions that are primarily about displacing one ruling class with another, like the American Revolution) is serious enough material privation and to a lesser extent political repression

w/caveat that how serious the level of privation needs to be is probably relative to what standard of living people are accustomed to
 

william_kent

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"Why don't you see prince Edward's children in public?"

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^ that's why...

edit: not that I would want to make fun of "neurodivergent" children, I hope you understand... furiously backtracking here...

edit: just remembered GCHQ are scanning every website in the UK.... if I don't post anything in the next few days, then you'll know I've been visted by the "security services"... fuck, I'm doomed...pray for me...
 
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WashYourHands

Cat Malogen
it's probably fading now as that generation of Kennedys recedes into history but when I was growing up the Kennedy Curse - Rosemary (the lobotomized one), Chappaquiddick, etc in addition to JFK and RFK, and eventually JFK Jr.'s plane crash - was something probably a great majority of Americans still had at least some familiarity with

Heavy day, had a few mushrooms and everyone went home or to bed

Biden’s been unlucky with mortality of family. It’s inescapable, even if irrelevant in day to day life, that the times create vistas where “he sacrificed them like Dugin did with his own daughter“ and “whatabout Pedo fuckin Pete, Ukraine, laptops?” are distractions. On and on

Stating the obvious but subtle distinction is Britons have a hard time imagining firearms cultures and the vast spacial reality of America. It’s beyond conceptual analysis and many can’t even recall the height of the Troubles, ducking into certain pubs wondering if tonight was the night. We can’t picture the scope of your govt, the array of area centres which have military presences. Guns can be seen as exotic. They hold no practical worth outside of agriculture, criminality, sports shooting (wicked blast!) and law enforcement. 99.99% of people never go near one, so to imagine a single, trained, driven man taking out a president with so much yet to come, the practicalities are prob interpreted differently

Assassinations are one thing but get your point about spiralling influence. Sandy Hook’s attraction to psychos, encouraged and led on by A Jones et al, is distilled grimness in a long winding path of madness, plus good exploitation $’s too. People being phoned after losing kids in such unimaginable circumstances, who then can’t grieve fully? Jfc

Remember Columbine clearly, being your side of the pond at the time and it was one of a few events which produced significant collective psychological shifts. Usual suspects of Waco‘s full media scrum, Oklahoma, expansion of preppers, 9/11. Equally, we can’t imagine a president in an open top car being hit by a team of shooters, a set up with rogue elements surfacing and a handover of power. It’s why I’m surprised no-one else has been done since but no cctv culture of surveillance in 1963 beyond the usual

JFK book market with supposedly fresh analysis is one big grift. No-one really knows if Kennedy was going to withdraw from Vietnam, if Cubans, mafia or agency black operations moved against him or why. The value in the subject is where its changed and led worldviews into fields which can’t be influenced beyond collective psychosis
 

Mr. Tea

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