Cringe sublime

[shiels]

This is quite embarrassing for you @entertainment

Cringeworthy

Life is cringeworthy now isn’t it? It’s cringeworthy to be alive, to exist and be exposed and to occupy space at this time with you all. This will be a cringeworthy thread. You’re all quite embarrassing and I’m embarrassed for you, and myself. What is cringing about? How is it different than...

www.dissensus.com

 

[entertainment]

This is quite embarrassing for you @entertainment

Cringeworthy

Life is cringeworthy now isn’t it? It’s cringeworthy to be alive, to exist and be exposed and to occupy space at this time with you all. This will be a cringeworthy thread. You’re all quite embarrassing and I’m embarrassed for you, and myself. What is cringing about? How is it different than...

www.dissensus.com

I actually remember that one now! Sorry to step on your toes there.

 

[shiels]

Have noticed a lot of ‘be cringe’ quasi self help memes that seem to acknowledge the impossibility of a coherent sense of self & authenticity in the dress up box instagram age

The memes are right: to be cringe is to be free

We have entered an era of unapologetic, ‘exuberant’ bad taste – and it feels liberating

www.dazeddigital.com

 

[shiels]

These Dazed writers obv read my thread too

 

[blissblogger]

it's what that K-punk feller called the Big Other innit

 

[entertainment]

I think we are embarrasesd because we a burdened with an heir we don't understand. This is why culture is insufficiently oedipal. The father figure is everywhere and nowhere at the same time. The voices in our head have no speaker, no one we can fight, and so the primary outlet for catharsis becomes a sort of abdication.

In hindsight maybe this should have been the subject of the thread. Abdicate abdicate!

 

[blissblogger]

there's an overlap between embarrassing and the authentic...

like this is when people are at their realest, when they reveal themselves (even when the embarrassingness involves a pose or pretending to be something you're not, because that is an authentic desire or wish manifesting itself through the affectation or pretence

 

[shiels]

it's what that K-punk feller called the Big Other innit

I remember him discussing that in relation to class, and through kafka. The superego, voice of the father

But there's also something new in the acceleration of change and different audiences we're exposed to, code switch between (and create versions of ourselves for) with social media and digital self mutability, which definitely isnt a real phrase

 

[entertainment]

there's an overlap between embarrassing and the authentic...

like this is when people are at their realest, when they reveal themselves (even when the embarrassingness involves a pose or pretending to be something you're not, because that is an authentic desire or wish manifesting itself through the affectation or pretence

I think this dynamic has been particularly pressurized by the online world. How swiftly your sincere authentic showing can be punctured by a sardonic remark. The bathos.

 

[shiels]

If I spoke how I speak here to some of my friends it would feel uncomfortable

 

[woops]

sardonic remark

if you rephrased this as "sardonic nasty remark" you could shorten it to "snark"

 

[shiels]

Noun sense “snide remark” as back-formation from snarky (1906), from obsolete snark (“to snore, snort”, verb) (1866), from Middle English *snarken (“to snore”), equivalent to snore +‎ -k.

 

[sufi]

Noun sense “snide remark” as back-formation from snarky (1906), from obsolete snark (“to snore, snort”, verb) (1866), from Middle English *snarken (“to snore”), equivalent to snore +‎ -k.

snide (adj.)
1859, thieves' slang, "counterfeit, sham, bad, spurious," of unknown origin. Century Dictionary suggests it is a dialectal variant of snithe, itself a dialectal adjective meaning "sharp, cutting," used of the wind, from the Middle English verb snithen "to cut," from Old English snithan, which is cognate with German schneiden.

 

[sufi]

If I spoke how I speak here to some of my friends it would feel uncomfortable

explaining what you get up to online, describing memes or clever internet stuff is incompatible with real life
it's like people recounting dreams - incomprehensible and boring

you start out describing something epic/awesome and yr anecdote ends up crumbling into cringe

 

[shiels]

I’ve come to the realisation that im passive aggressive in a way. I do this thing when im insecure or embarrassed about my feelings i Cartoonise them, exaggerate massively, sarcastically play the role of what a lesser, insecure man might do… and make the person who has made me insecure take on all my discomfort in the process, bam im back in control dickhead. But sometimes i also do this when im not feeling insecure, just for a laugh. And i get frustrated when people arent smart enough to tell the difference and see the real me and unconditionally love the real me. its a total nightmare.

 

[woops]

explaining what you get up to online, describing memes or clever internet stuff is incompatible with real life
it's like people recounting dreams - incomprehensible and boring

you start out describing something epic/awesome and yr anecdote ends up crumbling into cringe

just get your phone out and show one of the people you're with and leave me sitting there thinking ??? while the two of you yuck it up, problem solved

 

[blissblogger]

snide (adj.)
1859, thieves' slang, "counterfeit, sham, bad, spurious," of unknown origin. Century Dictionary suggests it is a dialectal variant of snithe, itself a dialectal adjective meaning "sharp, cutting," used of the wind, from the Middle English verb snithen "to cut," from Old English snithan, which is cognate with German schneiden.

so 90s slang uses like snide E is actually more authentic or at least deeper-rooted meaning of the word (whereas I thought it was creative slang - snide shifting over from its more recent meaning as "mean", "nasty", snide remarks etc)

 

[IdleRich]

Rich you seem like the least neurotic guy on Dissensus. You would never understand this thought. Your portuguese bohemia lies at the opposite end of the spectrum from this point of view.

Maybe true of the version of myself that has ended up being the one that dissensus sees... is strange how self-conscious I was when I was young but one day (or so my memory has it) I just decided to stop caring - with some success.

Your portuguese bohemia lies at the opposite end of the spectrum from this (Scandi) point of view.

My observations have led me to conclude that Portugal and the Nordic countries are often at opposite ends of the spectrum on countless topics, just as the lazy clichés might predict.

Got a friend from Iceland, does that count as Nordic or what? The stuff he's told me about there is insane... unless he's been creating an elaborate wind-up over several months at my expense, which is no doubt possible.

 

[entertainment]

Got a friend from Iceland, does that count as Nordic or what? The stuff he's told me about there is insane... unless he's been creating an elaborate wind-up over several months at my expense, which is no doubt possible.

I don't know much about Icelandics but the Finns are supposedly the most extreme in this aspect, very averse to any form of social interaction.

 

[Mr. Tea]

I don't know much about Icelandics but the Finns are supposedly the most extreme in this aspect, very averse to any form of social interaction.

Hence the joke, that I'm all the Nordic countries had (but definitely the Finns, anyway), that when the government relaxed the two-metre social distancing rule, everyone breathed a sigh of relief and went back to the usual ten metres.