Verlaine // Television

Leo

Leo

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Remember them being criticized at the time by some on the scene for being "punk Grateful Dead", with all the long songs and guitar jams.

EDIT: should have tagged @WashYourHands here...
 
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version

version

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'Marquee Moon' was one of the albums I heard when going through all those canonical lists as a teenager and one that really stuck.

I just recommended it to someone recently who'd never heard of Television and it was really satisfying to have them get it immediately, zero in on how good the guitars were and really love it the way I did when I first heard it.
 
Leo

Leo

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Anyone ever hear "Double Exposure"? An unofficial release, says it demos done with Eno, although according to Discogs "Richard Lloyd claimed in 2013: "This was NOT produced by Brian Eno...we...didn't use a single idea that Eno brought.”

The Rhino "Live at the Old Waldorf" is a great live recording.
 
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mvuent

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have to admit that until yesterday i made a conscious effort not to look at any other pictures of them, i was so infatuated by how goulish they and especially verlaine look on the cover of marquee moon. didn’t want to see them looking normal and ruin the mystique. the people on the cover have spent the past hundred years performing in dingy clubs, lurking in subterranean mazes of smoke, decayed deco paneling and crimson velvet curtains. they’d instantly disappear if they set foot in the above world, wholly incompatible with it. the people in that photo don’t exist in the same universe as concepts like sunlight and nutrition. anyways my point is they were a great band, verlaine a genius.
 
Corpsey

Corpsey

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Beyond See No Evil I've always struggled to get into 'Marquee Moon' and I'm just now realising that's cos 'Venus' and 'Friction' irritate and bore me and so I never get that far. I just tried out 'Elevation' and it's great. (EDIT: 'Guiding Light' is good too.)

Although tbh the singing kind of annoys me in general. ☺️
 
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woops

woops

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Corpsey said:
Thought i saw this on here but maybe it was on twitter – Nick Kent frothing over 'Marquee Moon' back in 77

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Nick Kent - Television - New Musical Express - February 1977

A record deemed so momentous they made the review into a cover story / inside spread Television Marquee Moon New Musical Express , Febr...
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not much style on display though is there. he's basically going
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this is really good. the songs are really good. the singing is really good. the guitar playing is really good. the bad playing is also really good, and the drum is really good this album is really good
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Corpsey

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
What sort of style do you want?

e.g. he opens with: "Sometimes it takes but one record----one cocksure magical statement, to cold cock all the crapola and all purpose wheat chaff mix'n'match, to set the whole schmear straight and get the current state of play down, down, down, to stand or fall in one dignified granite hard focus."

I'm not saying this is great writing but it's not style-less.

Unless you mean some grey area in terms of his opinions. It's a rant, that's for sure.
 
Corpsey

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Leo said:
Remember them being criticized at the time by some on the scene for being "punk Grateful Dead", with all the long songs and guitar jams.
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I can see this, at the end of 'Torn Curtain' e.g. turns into a big rock wank (not that that's a bad thing)
 
linebaugh

linebaugh

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mvuent said:
have to admit that until yesterday i made a conscious effort not to look at any other pictures of them, i was so infatuated by how goulish they and especially verlaine look on the cover of marquee moon. didn’t want to see them looking normal and ruin the mystique. the people on the cover have spent the past hundred years performing in dingy clubs, lurking in subterranean mazes of smoke, decayed deco paneling and crimson velvet curtains. they’d instantly disappear if they set foot in the above world, wholly incompatible with it. the people in that photo don’t exist in the same universe as concepts like sunlight and nutrition. anyways my point is they were a great band, verlaine a genius.
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it looks deep fried, compressed through a million instagram filters
 
version

version

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Corpsey said:
TV related, I like this richard hell song – can hear the velvet underground influence all over it

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I heard a Dream Syndicate tune for the first time the other day and it sounded so much like the Velvets, particularly the singer doing his Lou Reed impersonation.

 
linebaugh

linebaugh

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version said:
I heard a Dream Syndicate tune for the first time the other day and it sounded so much like the Velvets, particularly the singer doing his Lou Reed impersonation.

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dream syndicate are basically writing songs that the velvet underground didnt get around too. maybe slightly more new wave. so much so that when Im listening to them it feels more appropriate to say Im enjoying VU through dream syndicate
 
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