Gorillaz

jack

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blissblogger said:
another awful moment in the blur doc is when damon is doing the score to a movie and steps out to berate the sessions musicians for not playing his lame little funk-jazz-blacksploitation riff with sufficient swing and gusto

oh yeah i've seen this. There's another bit where Graham is pissing about with a tiny practice amp and a couple of effects pedals, saying 'yeah, you can get some really interesting sounds out of this'. Cue fuzz dirge drone, while he makes knob adjustments and nods. Lo-fi man!!!
 

mms

sometimes
dominic said:
"stinkin thinkin" is a great single

however, the mondays album you're supposed to hate is "yes please!"

it's "great when you're straight" is black grapes

stinkin thinkin is looovley -
'kiss me for old times sake, kiss me for making a big mistake...kiss me good night.."
the sly old dog
do you think thats rowetta from fame academy on backing vocals?
 
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k-punk

Spectres of Mark
Coxon is annoying fer sure, but by far the most irritating member of Blur was Alex Fucking James, a man whose unctuous sliming swagger took smugness to a degree previously considered humanly unattainable... just check the way he flicks that fucking toff's fringe in all those Blur videos... a man whose face might have been solely responsible for the coining of the neologism 'punchable'....

and - I rest my case m'lud - a man who teamed up with the two other most irritating men in Britain - talentless hack Damien Hirst and loathsome two-bit Welsh comedian turned moronic meta-thug England football fan Keith Allen - to form the conceptual hooligan act Fat Les, responsible for celebrating getting drunk, fighting and yowling in the street from the safe distance of middle class privilege....

James now sports a beard and a cloth cap and writes a column on rural affairs for the Independent. I tell no word of a lie.
 

Tim F

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I adored the Ed Case remix of it, but always found it hard to trust "Clint Eastwood" - not because it was <i>knowing</i> pop but because it struck that timeless formula of startling, catchy and being in good taste, which, while fine in and of itself, becomes positively infuriating when the song seems to be liked enormously by everyone but you - this is what I sometimes call the "Hey Ya" effect... songs which everyone else seems to like more the more they hear it, but I like less the more I hear it in their company, resenting the fact that I can't quite hear the magic it's weaving for them.

Also it didn't help that it came out not too long after that Deltron 3000 song with Del tha Funky Homosapien rapping about a virus and papyrus and what have you - for several years I could hardly stand to listen to his voice which above all other rappers positively drips with patronising self-satisfaction - which is a shame because in other ways I quite like him.

"Feel Good Inc." is pretty much in the same mould - and I would argue actually <i>is</i> this year's "Hey Ya", and serves precisely the same function for many people who are still nervous about engaging with any black music you're supposed to dance to - with the crucial difference that it's a much better song, doesn't have Del, Damon doesn't do that grating whiny thing... It makes me think if iPods now but that's not it's own fault really.

"Dare" is just very very good. Sounds great being blasted out of cars.
 

k-punk

Spectres of Mark
Partly the problem with 'Clint Eastwood' was dub, really... I find anything dub-influenced impossible to listen to except at a meta level now, as a signifier of tastefulness...

My position on the Gorillaz is that I kind of like the records, but I'd like them more if they weren't by them....

re: 'Hey Yah' I started off being very enthusiastic about it, but punitive force of repetition and insta-canonic consensual approval killed it off very quickly ...

btw, is 'Hey Yah' the first of this genre, or have there been a series of this type of single?
 

alo

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yup

most irritating men in Britain - talentless hack Damien Hirst and loathsome two-bit Welsh comedian turned moronic meta-thug England football fan Keith Allen

My girlfriend used to have to put up with their condescending abuse while working in a village pub in Gloucestershire, and they seem, as you can imagine:::: (talentless) dickheads of the highest fucking order.

Ahem.
 

mms

sometimes
alo said:
My girlfriend used to have to put up with their condescending abuse while working in a village pub in Gloucestershire, and they seem, as you can imagine:::: (talentless) dickheads of the highest fucking order.

Ahem.

yeah hurst works from Stroud just down the road from where my mum was born.
A friend works for him, he gets paid danger money for killing flies with formalderhyde to do pics with - he described the smell of the flies - revolting - its a good chance for him tho.

You can't diss albarn too much - it's a matter of be careful what you wish for i think , gorrillaz are quite deceptivley interesting, their live show using holograms looks incredible and they upset 50 cent.
Also albarns unembarrassed and very public interest in non indie is a good thing if as i understand most people on this board want - a way out of the vaccum.
 

Tim F

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"re: 'Hey Yah' I started off being very enthusiastic about it, but punitive force of repetition and insta-canonic consensual approval killed it off very quickly ...

btw, is 'Hey Yah' the first of this genre, or have there been a series of this type of single?"

Yeah I've wondered about this myself! The easy way out is to say that it's not a full-fledged genre but more just a tendency - I remember Kelis's "Milkshake" started to veer into this territory and I only just managed to hold onto my affection for the song.

Obv with "Hey Ya" etc. there's a slight sense of distaste at finding certain of yr own impulses and tastes in danger of being aligned with those you find distasteful - e.g. "did the fact that I loved "Ms. Jackson" pave the way for people claiming Andre 3000 has transcended the limited possibilities of hip hop?" A sense that the song in question is (or <i>was</i>) good, but is somehow tainted b/c it is liked for the "<i>wrong reasons</i>".

Other songs which garnered similar insta-canonical consensus (e.g. "Get Ur Freak On") perhaps escape with their quality intact because that consensus basically did articulate what was good about the song (even if that consensus quickly became a cliche - "ooh, tablas!" etc.)

Maybe "Milkshake" falls halfway in between because the consensus, while correct, was <i>already</i> a cliche at the time of the song's release ("OMG Neptunes!" etc.)

I've actually not happened to read anything written about "Feel Good Inc" in much depth, so a lot of this on my part is just conjecture w/r/t what probably <i>would</i> be written. I wonder if the critical reaction <i>has</i> lived up to this or if it's actually fairly reasonable...
 

gumdrops

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watched them doing glastonbury last night (well til about 11pm, at which point i couldnt keep awake any longer) and remembered just how much i hated britpop at the time. ive since developed a thing for pulp, and i do like some of oasis and suedes songs, so thought maybe id like them now too, but i still dont like anything (except girls and boys) til they got a bit more 'american' with the s/t album. hes such a crap singer, and as a band, apart from coxon, they just sounded so... weak, or empty or something? (or maybe thats just damon albarn). i know its prob not for me, but i still dont get it. :slanted:
 
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Sick Boy

All about pride and egos
I don't just like Blur, I love Blur. The Great Escape was the first album I ever bought on my own accord, at the age of 9. Pulp were great too. I never really gave the Gorillaz much of a chance (not having bought any albums and being slightly put off by the whole cartoon schtick - remember Prozak anyone?) but I did buy "Dare" on vinyl because it fucking rocks.
 
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bob effect

somnambulist
watched them doing glastonbury last night (well til about 11pm, at which point i couldnt keep awake any longer) and remembered just how much i hated britpop at the time. ive since developed a thing for pulp, and i do like some of oasis and suedes songs, so thought maybe id like them now too, but i still dont like anything (except girls and boys) til they got a bit more 'american' with the s/t album. hes such a crap singer, and as a band, apart from coxon, they just sounded so... weak, or empty or something? (or maybe thats just damon albarn). i know its prob not for me, but i still dont get it. :slanted:

Watching their Glastonbury set made me realise how much of their output I know really well, despite never having owned any of their music. Like you I hated britpop at the time, but out of all of the bands that rode that wave of hype I'd say Blur's music has stood up pretty well in comparison to some of the others.

Also made me think that I wasted a lot of time when was younger hating music/ bands for no good reason, other than I thought I was too cool to like stuff like that.
 
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