luka

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It was on YouTube subtitled last time I looked. I've started the book a few times but never got all that far with it.
 

IdleRich

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I might watch that or bitter tears of Petra von Something
Petra von Kant, I think that's the first Fassbinder one I saw. I had just started going out with this Spanish girl and she bought the early boxset which has his first twenty odd films in it. We loved that one and from that day on I went to her place every evening where we would watch one or two of his films together until the boxset was completed.

The early, romantic days of courting when you do loads of stuff together and it all seems fun... before it all goes horribly wrong and you turn viciously on each other. Still, we'll always have Fassbinder the Early Years I guess.
 
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catalog

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Classic film, but also one of the slowest fassbinders.

Big joke in my house at uni cos I got everyone together to watch it and they all thought it was just a massive pisstaker in how ridiculous it is, with the one room.

My favourite fassbinders is called "a merchant of all seasons". About a recently released prisoner who becomes a fruit seller. Loads of good scenes, including a classic in a beer Hall.

Fox and friends is good as well, he plays the lead in that.

And also "why does herr r run amok", sort of anticipates falling down and American beauty, but much better than both of them.

You can't really go wrong with fassbinders, every films got something to it. Plus he never went off the boil like herzog cos dead at 38.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Classic film, but also one of the slowest fassbinders.

Big joke in my house at uni cos I got everyone together to watch it and they all thought it was just a massive pisstaker in how ridiculous it is, with the one room
How do you mean? I guess it's like a play in that respect right? A very stylish, bitchy one.
 

catalog

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Yeah cos of that claustrophobia of the room. I know that's a feature of it, you get into it, but I prefer his others with all the really sparse interior design, but at least it's different rooms
 

IdleRich

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His films are just so varied cos he was so prolific. You've got the weird early ones with almost anti-acting that is so wooden, you've got Querelle which is like a kinda hallucinatory long form Gautier advert with all those impossible looking gay sailors, you've got the proto-Lynch dreamlike noir The American Soldier, you've got glammed up sci-fi that anticipates The Matrix with World on a Wire...




In fact I dunno why WoaW doesn't get mentioned here more, it must be the most dissensus film ever with its Is Reality Fake premise.

Or you could think of it as the matrix but with an aesthetic based around bespoke suits, fur coats and retro-modernist minimal designer furniture instead of "virgin steals his mum's credit card and can finally afford that really cool leather trench coat from Cyberdog".

Thete is also an American film based on the same book, we could compare and contrast.
 

Clinamenic

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Halfway through The Pervert's Guide to Cinema and I'm liking it so far.

Strange, now that I'm less under the influence of continental philosophy and psychoanalysis, much of Zizek's theory here seems unduly neurotic, albeit still insightful here and there. Forcing an oedipal paradigm onto the subject matter, etc.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Not seen that one I don't think, will check it out
I think it was made for TV, a two part series rather than a film. It looks so stylish

I don't think it's giving too much away to say the premise but if you don't want to know look away now SPOILER the gist of it is that the main guy works for a company that has built a virtual world which they intend to use for modelling and predicting the future... but the people in their virtual world build their own virtual world and, as they realise there are various levels of worlds within worlds, they begin to question whether theirs is the top level or merely another in this nested sequence of simulacra.
 
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woops

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His films are just so varied cos he was so prolific. You've got the weird early ones with almost anti-acting that is so wooden, you've got Querelle which is like a kinda hallucinatory long form Gautier advert with all those impossible looking gay sailors, you've got the proto-Lynch dreamlike noir The American Soldier, you've got glammed up sci-fi that anticipates The Matrix with World on a Wire...




In fact I dunno why WoaW doesn't get mentioned here more, it must be the most dissensus film ever with its Is Reality Fake premise.

Or you could think of it as the matrix but with an aesthetic based around bespoke suits, fur coats and retro-modernist minimal designer furniture instead of "virgin steals his mum's credit card and can finally afford that really cool leather trench coat from Cyberdog".

Thete is also an American film based on the same book, we could compare and contrast.
His films were so varied and he was so prolific cos he was boss of a theatre group whose other members directed alot of the films that bare his name
 
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