version

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"Doc was noticing more and more lately among gatherings of carefree youth and happy dopers, older men, there and not there, rigid, unsmiling, with a defiant posture, like the operatives who dragged away Coy Harlingen at the rally for Vigilant California. Doc knew these people. He'd seen enough of them in the course of business. They went out to collect cash debts, they broke rib cages, they got people fired. They kept an unforgiving eye on anything that might become a threat. If everything in this dream was in fact doomed to end and the faithless, money-driven world to reassert its control, it would be agents like these, dutiful and silent, out doing the shitwork, who would make it happen."
 

luka

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I refused to watch that film because I can't do any more comedy sideburns. That student disco version of the 70s Hollywood can't let go of.
 

version

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I think you'd dislike the humour, but perhaps like the conspiracy stuff and tone. There's a lot left unsaid. You get the feeling you're never quite getting the full story because of these figures lurking in the background. There's also a rumoured Pynchon cameo, but nobody knows where or whether it's true.
 

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There's a tall man who looks how he's often been described, but he looks too young. I've wondered whether it's his son dressed as him as he's worked with PTA before and there would technically be a Pynchon in the film.
 

WashYourHands

Cat Malogen
Come And See.

Hadn't watched for years - this was about the 3rd viewing in as many decades. Monstrous, visionary film making. Probably should've waited until Covid calms down.
 

linebaugh

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I started it but I wasn't feeling it.... should watch it through properly though to give an informed opinion.
It starts off bad. That first scene with chloe moretz doing whatever the fuck that was followed by the clunkily placed thom yorke song had me not feeling it either but I'm glad I stuck it out.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
I'm not a big fan of re-makes as a rule, especially when it's such an iconic film. Maybe they should have just said it was also inspired by the book which somehow I find more acceptable but maybe it wouldn't have been true, it did seem kinda similar to the Argento one to say the least.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
But I mean - although I've not read it - if you compare the synopsis of the book....

Levana and Our Ladies of Sorrow
— beginning with a discussion of Levana, the ancient Roman goddess of childbirth, De Quincey imagines three companions for her: Mater Lachrymarum, Our Lady of Tears; Mater Suspiriorum, Our Lady of Sighs; and Mater Tenebrarum, Our Lady of Darkness.

And then

used De Quincey's Suspiria, particularly Levana and Our Ladies of Sorrow, as an inspiration for his "Three Mothers" trilogy of films, which include Suspiria, Inferno and The Mother of Tears.[9] This influence carried over into Luca Guadagnino's 2018 version of the first film

The second film is a remake of the first rather than a second adaptation of the essay in that it's also about a coven in a dance school, an idea which I don't believe is present in the writing.
 
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