version

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I watched Munich recently and I thought it was (on the whole) great. Probably it's seen as propaganda by both Isreali and Palestinian supporters, though?

The sex scene bit at the end is absolutely hilarious.
That wouldn't surprise me. Also, I imagine it isn't entirely accurate, so the historians probably had a bone to pick with it.

And yeah, the sex scene/airport flashback felt like a misstep. I'm glad he didn't end it there.
 

version

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Something which surprised me was how cold the violence was, particularly when they killed the Dutch operative on the houseboat and there was the exchange over leaving her robe open.

I haven't seen everything of Spielberg's, but I didn't think he had this sort of film in him. You can see flashes of it in Saving Private Ryan, but this was much harsher than anything else I've seen of his.
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Yeah it was relatively devoid of sentimentality. Although as I said I'm sure it upset/enraged people on both sides of that divide, it seemed very morally ambiguous to me – the deliberate humanisation of the people they were assassinating, the progressive dehumanisation of the assassins.
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
I thought after seeing it that Daniel Craig must be Jewish or part Jewish - given that he's also in that film Defiance, but a cursory Google tells me he isn't. And (stereotypes in mind) I'd never have assumed he was if it wasn't for those films. He looks more like a Nazi, doesn't he?
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
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IdleRich

IdleRich
I just watched Anthony Hopkins as Hitch in a film which I believe was called simply Hitchcock but, rather than being the biopic that implies, it was entirely about the making of Psycho and the battles he had with the studio and the censors to get it passed and distributed and so on.
The film was fairly slight in all honesty and arguably there isn't that much dramatic tension in a film which turns on how successful Psycho would be SPOILER it was pretty successful. Yet I enjoyed the setting, the performances and so on. Best described as light relief really, nothing more than that, but compared to yer average film on telly here - which they seem to programme by scouring the lower reaches of Rotten Tomatoes - it was an absolutely towering work of genius.
One thing though, I would have thought that there might have been some mention of Peeping Tom while they were discussing the viability of Psycho, I believe that that came out shortly before and would have merited a mention. At one point Helen Mirren describes Hitch as a peeping Tom which made me wonder if it was a reference... but then why would they put in such a thing like that?

The other day there was The Lincoln Lawyer on telly; again, probably made to look good by the dreck it rubs shoulders with, it's a fairly workaday thriller with Matthew Mconaghey (sp?) as a slightly dodgy defence lawyer who has no office, but works from a chauffeur driven Lincoln (it's a type of car apparently) with plates reading NTGLTY - amongst the least interesting character quirks I've heard in some time, but the film itself in which he has to defend bland rich kid Ryan Philippe (really stretching himself with this part) from a charge of assault had a pretty decent plot I thought with a number of twists that I didn't see coming and which felt plausible and uncontrived enough to satisfy.
Good story well told in short. I'm not saying you should drop everything and watch it now, but if you're on a plane or similar circumstance and it's one of the options then you could do a lot worse.
 

linebaugh

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Something which surprised me was how cold the violence was, particularly when they killed the Dutch operative on the houseboat and there was the exchange over leaving her robe open.

I haven't seen everything of Spielberg's, but I didn't think he had this sort of film in him. You can see flashes of it in Saving Private Ryan, but this was much harsher than anything else I've seen of his.

Perico De Lospalotes

11 months ago
The moment is which she's having difficulties to breath and knows her life is about to end, kissing goodbye to her cat, is epic.
 

craner

Beast of Burden
Out of the five films included on Years of Lead, which would you recommend I start with? I really enjoyed those Fernando Di Leo crime collection Raro sets. "That man deserves our honour!"

@nochexxx I wrote this specifically to help you out with this question:

 

rubberdingyrapids

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after hours, the 80s scorsese film with griffin dunne.
less jittery than i remember it being and could do with just a bit more despair maybe but has a close-to-breaking-down/going-crazy but not quite getting to that point frustrated energy that makes it better.
not really cringe comedy but has some of that frustration you get in larry david's curb stuff, except its less funny. the griffin dunne character is also not very pitiable, you dont really feel sorry for him, hes not tragic, you just feel his bewilderment.
very 80s indie, kind of thing you dont get anymore, cos most indie filmmakers take themselves much more seriously now.
better than goodfellas.
 
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nochexxx

harco pronting
@nochexxx I wrote this specifically to help you out with this question:

good stuff. I'd really like to know more about illiegal chase sequences in films. I assume many 70s movies were shot this way.
Friedkin's French Connection and Lustig's Maniac Cop spring to mind and perhaps the most definitive example of this is C'était un rendez-vous as the entire move was one giant street race iirc.
 
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