Grim Britannia

[luka]

Anyone who considers themselves an anything.

A critic of Islam

 

[luka]

Is that another way of saying "stuff you disagree with"?

No. He's saying what the unthinkable should be if it's working properly. The ideal to which it aspires.

 

[IdleRich]

OK, who defines themselves as an anything...

 

[version]

Billy BoyBlue 9 months ago (edited)
Intelligent insights by thinking men---most people will not or cannot absorb this conversation

I think I hate this sort of YouTube comment more than any other. Any video of Murray, Peterson, Hitchens etc is inundated with them. People falling over themselves waffling about IQ and mannered discussion.

chris mill 1 year ago
How refreshing to hear two grown-ups talking together, after all the juvenile shouting from Antifa, Owen Jones etc.

Eva Zigon 3 weeks ago (edited)
Absolutely brilliant discussion and a real delight to listen to both these incredibly lucid and powerful minds.

Ron Garvin 9 months ago (edited)
Imagine if all politicians had the intelligence and characteristics of gentleman like these, rather than well spoken snake-oil salesmen pandering to groups

 

[IdleRich]

No. He's saying what the unthinkable should be if it's working properly. The ideal to which it aspires.

But stuff outside my ideological range is just stuff I don't like isn't it? It's a bit disappointing that that's what unthinkable means. It's like you go to the circus and they say "well obviously it wasn't gonna be a real giant".

 

[vimothy]

theres always something lurking in there that your not aware of, informing your views

 

[luka]

Peter Levin 6 months ago
It inspires such confidence to see good tailoring and traditional fabrics such as tweed and worsted adorning our menfolk. Some advice leftists, if you want to be taken seriously, try dressing the part.

 

[luka]

But stuff outside my ideological range is just stuff I don't like isn't it? It's a bit disappointing that that's what unthinkable means. It's like you go to the circus and they say "well obviously it wasn't gonna be a real giant".

I don't understand what you mean

 

[vimothy]

ideology isnt just what you like, it's how you approach reality

 

[version]

The thing that comes to mind when I look at the comments under clips of Peterson et al is Burroughs' playing the most extreme message of a given group to their enemies to drive them into a frenzy. They're seeing "postmodern neomarxists" in their soup.

 

[IdleRich]

I don't understand what you mean

I mean that when they say "Unthnkable" they don't really mean that and they can justify how it's something like that or whatever but really it's a bit of a swiz.

 

[IdleRich]

ideology isnt just what you like, it's how you approach reality

But all ideologists think outside it all the time to defeat their ideological enemies.

 

[luka]

I mean that when they say "Unthnkable" they don't really mean that and they can justify how it's something like that or whatever but really it's a bit of a swiz.

That's what I thought vimothy was saying

 

[vimothy]

ideology is bits you cant think outside

 

[WashYourHands]

Skegness aka Skeggy. Discuss.

 

[IdleRich]

I mean that when they say "Unthnkable" they don't really mean that and they can justify how it's something like that or whatever but really it's a bit of a swiz.

But he's saying it's ok... I'm just saying I'd like something to be actually unthinkable for once... or even close to.

 

[vimothy]

ofc you can think outside it, that's why there are multiple competeing ideologies, but you dont

 

[IdleRich]

Skegness aka Skeggy. Discuss.

Yeah back on topic... but never been.

 

[IdleRich]

ofc you can think outside it, that's why there are multiple competeing ideologies, but you dont

You do you just don't admit it.

 

[vimothy]

unthinkable in an unconditional sense, that's impossible. unthinkable within the terms if reference of a particular ideology, that's standard