The New World

[sus]

patience

 

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Christian charity

 

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breathing exercises

 

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openness, in the Big 5 sense

 

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daily prayer for assistance and strength

 

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Lexapro

 

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a diet rich in vitamin C and leafy greens

 

[IdleRich]

I haven't read through but I assume that this is a thread for us all to slate this film - great idea

 

[Simon silverdollarcircle]

I haven't seen the film - why would you? - but Tree of Life is absolute pile of wank so I'm always up for slating anything mallick has done apart from his first few good ones

How bad is new world? Worse than tree of life? More or less perfume adverty?

 

[luka]

Very perfume ad. National Geographic full colour centrefold. Breathtakingly trite.

 

[sus]

you know, I always wondered who Elaine Scarry was talking to in On Beauty, but now I understand. the visual arts world, and the Brits!

 

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[luka]

Well it's a very trite notion of beauty. That's what we are objecting to. It's a perfume advert aesthetic as silver dollars says. Its a glossy magazine.

 

[Simon silverdollarcircle]

You can't grow up in britain and believe in beauty in the mallick way. Here it's all microwaved pasties and erstatz line dancing in community centres and hard house in leisure centres and, wherever you are, people in hi viz jackets calling you a cunt

We have evolved beyond beauty

 

[constant escape]

Well it's a very trite notion of beauty. That's what we are objecting to. It's a perfume advert aesthetic as silver dollars says. Its a glossy magazine.

Haven't even heard of New World, so I can't speak to it directly, but could we say the kind of beauty he conveys is particularly Christian in some way? Not sure what denomination Malick is, or what his opinions are, but in his more recent films you do get the Antonioni wandering existential thing (men playfully pursuing women, infinitely), plus some kind of grace that I would be inclined to attribute to his faith - but again, don't know much about him there.

 

[sus]

@constant escape watch New World

 

[IdleRich]

Never thought about Mallick's religion but Tarkovsky was a big old Christian who made beautiful films thst were good.

 

[sus]

it is a Christian kind of beauty, that's apt, and you're right about Antonioni, they're similar on that axis yet somehow completely different sensibilities

 

[constant escape]

Never thought about Mallick's religion but Tarkovsky was a big old Christian who made beautiful films thst were good.

Well Tarkovsky registers to me as simply being above Malick, as much as I like Malick and respect him.

Do you get this unrelentingly alien vibe from Tarkovsky? Even in the earth scenes in Solaris, when the kid was looking at the horse. I think it was a kid, might have been a man. Anyway, the horse came across as this otherwordly thing. I believe I was sober when watching.

 

[IdleRich]

I don't see that at all. Which Antonioni?