The New World

sus

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It suggests a kind of cowardice or insecurity, not on your person per se, but as an attitude toward art-making. It's scared of being mocked, of being naive. And it ruthlessly mocks others similarly
 

luka

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if you absolutely have to watch a Malick film Limburger watch Priest. it's the got the best action scenes in it
 

sus

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To me, I see slippages into camp/cringe/bathos as inevitable in any art that is ambitious and willing to take risks
 

version

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I think it was The Thin Red Line where Adrien Brody went to the premiere thinking he was the lead and Malick had cut almost every scene of his without telling him.

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sus

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The "sacred seriousness" that can lapse into bathos is worth fighting for; it's worth more than being mocked for devolving into bathos, that's for sure
 

sus

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well its a failure isnt it.

I can't imagine your policy is that any film that has a couple "failed" scenes is garbage. It's in particular this type of failure that contaminates the entire work, to your palette
 

sus

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is the auto-generated, formalist work in Prediction Tablet an attempt to obscure feeling, sentiment, experience etc in the service of avoiding such potentials for sacred seriousness (and its corollary bathos)?
 

luka

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is the auto-generated, formalist work in Prediction Tablet an attempt to obscure feeling, sentiment, experience etc in the service of avoiding such potentials for sacred seriousness (and its corollary bathos)?

no. theres a fair bit of both seriousness and emoting.
 

sus

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The failure of an attempted sacred experience often results in the subjective experience of cringe.

Those who experiment are brave, for the road to sacred experience is paved with cringe.
 

padraig (u.s.)

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What do you think New World's stance on hope is?
well, I don't know if it's really about hopelessness

people die, their plans come to naught. that's life. especially in the early 17th C. we continue despite that.

I've never read Heidegger so if that's somehow implied, I'm missing it

Thin Red Line is a bit more straightforward, not as grim - or moody - despite being set in an actual war

they both feature characters reach toward Edenic sublimity who are pulled back into the material world of conflict via sacrifice

that sublimity is - unsurprisingly - the Malick touch on the adaptation, as it isn't in the book
 
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padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
theres ways to be serious without this faux hick naivite imo
this is an insane argument from a person whose favorite film is The Matrix

not that I'm saying it shouldn't be your favorite film but come on it's basically one long exercise in bathos
 
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