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UFO over easy

online mahjong
mms said:
this is not something i've personally ever heard - most dubstep mcs are hosting same as any other hosting mc. someone like sgt pokes is alot closer to your example of what you think dubstep mc's aren't, usually something about dubstep soldiers, are you readsy, feeling it in you chestplate etc..

the only person i can think of who kinda fits into your idea is spaceape who is kode9's poet/mc.
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I'd like to hear more of the Space Ape style dub poetry over dubstep... not sure how well it would work though, Kode 9 is basically the perfect producer for that kind of thing. At the last fwd Space Ape managed to get the perfect balance between deep rhymes and getting the crowd hyped - bawling for reloads on occasion.
 
echevarian

echevarian

babylon sister
You could also make a decent case for straight forward toasting,

Juakali is pretty adept at crowd control + decent rhymes.
 
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stelfox

Beast of Burden
it's funny. in isolation, i absolutely adore the stuff by steve with space ape, but a whole night of spoken-word-stylemcing would drive me a bit barmy. i guess, it's because i like dancehall so much and am pretty obsessed with vocals that i like the more in-your-face, heavy, less "tasteful" end of most music. i can appreciate a lot of the subtleties of dubstep, but just consider its latest incarnation way too introspective and attenuated in many ways. re scarboi's post, it's not that odd that i'm not that keen on it, because i'm not actually that big on dub of any variety, even the "real" stuff. sure, i know quite a bit about it, but that's because of its direct relation to song-form reggae, which is my first and last love. of course, there are lots of great moments and some of it's close to the best music in the world, not to mention incredibly important in terms of its influence on music at large and the genesis of remix culture as we now know it, but as a general rule songs are where my heart lies. that probably explains things better than anything else, especially as dubstep is actually dubbier than it ever was before.
 
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bassnation

the abyss
stelfox said:
it's funny. in isolation, i absolutely adore the stuff by steve with space ape, but a whole night of spoken-word-stylemcing would drive me a bit barmy. i guess, it's because i like dancehall so much and am pretty obsessed with vocals that i like the more in-your-face, heavy, less "tasteful" end of most music.
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yes, love steves music.

and again in agreement, i want something that makes my adreline pump. maybe its too many ecstasy pills over the years, but i need that buzz.

its a delicate balance though, i want chaos and noise but not to the point where it becomes breakcore. theres a very fine line between homage and parody and a lot of modern dance music plunders jungle without a fucking clue of how to use it properly. its almost that any old signifier is enough., no matter how hamfisted and unfunky the tune is. am i fighting a losing battle wanting to keep this flame alive?

i'm little bit drunk but i'm sure you know what i mean. basically

HARDCORE WILL NEVER DIE

(at least not in my gaff)
 
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Tim F

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"this is not something i've personally ever heard - most dubstep mcs are hosting same as any other hosting mc. someone like sgt pokes is alot closer to your example of what you think dubstep mc's aren't, usually something about dubstep soldiers, are you readsy, feeling it in you chestplate etc.."

I'm not talking about dubstep MCs though, I'm talking about the way in which jamaica-signifying vocals are used in the actual tracks - which tells us more about how producers position themselves in relation to reggae/dub/dancehall etc. than what the live MCs might be doing on top. Obv. most dubstep is originally instrumental, but when vocals <i>are</i> used they tend to be used in certain ways (likewise techstep was mostly instrumental, but when vocal samples were used it was often film samples referring to future technologies and government operations etc. etc.)

BTW scarboi I don't hate dubstep! The fact that it's not a central obsession of mine like 2-step was shouldn't be taken as some huge indictment.
 
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mms

sometimes
Tim F said:
"this is not something i've personally ever heard - most dubstep mcs are hosting same as any other hosting mc. someone like sgt pokes is alot closer to your example of what you think dubstep mc's aren't, usually something about dubstep soldiers, are you readsy, feeling it in you chestplate etc.."

I'm not talking about dubstep MCs though, I'm talking about the way in which jamaica-signifying vocals are used in the actual tracks - which tells us more about how producers position themselves in relation to reggae/dub/dancehall etc. than what the live MCs might be doing on top. Obv. most dubstep is originally instrumental, but when vocals <i>are</i> used they tend to be used in certain ways (likewise techstep was mostly instrumental, but when vocal samples were used it was often film samples referring to future technologies and government operations etc. etc.)

BTW scarboi I don't hate dubstep! The fact that it's not a central obsession of mine like 2-step was shouldn't be taken as some huge indictment.
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ok right i misunderstood - you are talking about vocals on tracks - then i agree completley.
It's very much different from when horsepower remixed elephant man, def a strange leap, it's not contemporary dancehall you'd hear sampled on a track, maybe again that's the distance from r and b. which is a clearer crossover in the big scheme of things. Maybe its the weeded out thing again... :confused:
 
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bassnation

the abyss
HELL_SD said:
try this bassnation...

...the dead truth (under construction edit) - http://s1.ultrashare.net/hosting/fs/7c2c18bb7fb62a9c/

more step less dub and not like anything else out ther but if you think so i'd love to hear what...
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just giving this a listen now - like it - nice and dark. the changes of pace up the energy level and the layering of the percussion is good. its dubby but not in a stereotypical way, more in terms of the production. the second bass has got detroit / ravey overtones - reminds me of kms slightly. great stuff, look forward to hearing more of your tunes.

i'll pm you some of my productions - i don't think i'm at this level yet but i'm trying to achieve something similar in tone.
 
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childrentalking

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Ghost/El-B mix here: http://subfm.djmixset.com/UnitedVibes25June06SubFM.mp3
in the second hour (63 minutes ->)...

tracklisting:

D. Dastardley & P. Pefecto – Rhythms (Got ‘Em)
Zed Bias – Buggin’ Me
David Howard – Time
Mr Reds – Honey
? ? ? - What About Us (Crazy Dub)
Abstrac – Love Devotion
Ray Hurley – Your Love (Ray’s VIP mix)
MJ Cole – Shadows (Ray Hurley mix)
Templeton Peck – Heat
Gass – Dark (2 as 1 & MJ Cole Rmx)
Anthill Mob - ? ? ?
DEA – Music Hypnotizing
Steve Gurley – Goodbye
Jeremy Sylvester – Crazy Dub
? ? - I Need a Man?? (Duty Free)
Maddflex – Feelins
Chris Mac – Alright
Rocksteady – Breathless
Chris Mac – I Need Your Love
Chris Mac – Plenty More
Anthill Mob - ? ? ?
Ramsey & Fen – Underground Explosion
? ? ? - ? ? ? (F Off records)
MJ Cole – Bandelero Desperado (El-B Rmx)
El-B – 1999 Remix
Groove Chronicles – 1999
Zed Bias – Time Out (El-B Rmx)
Singing Melody – If U Like It (Ghost Rmx)
Nude – Wake Up
Roxy Vs El-B – Breakbeat Science
Es-G – Get Dirty
El-B feat. Rolla – Serious (mix 2)
Alley Cats – Cover Me
El-B – Brandy Rmx ?
Blaze – Come Again
Alexis P. Suter – All Night Long (Nude Rmx)
El-B feat. Juiceman – Buck & Bury
Groove Chronicles – Black Puppet
El-B & Roxy – Dancehall
Ghost – We Aint Playin
Zed Bias – Neighbourhood (El-B Rmx)
El-B feat. Simba – Wicked Sound
Brasstooth – Celebrate Life (El-B Rmx)
El-B feat. Juiceman – Buck & Bury (Original Mix)
El-Tuff – Deep Deep Love
El-Tuff – Deep Deep Love (DIY ’04 Rmx)
Groove Chronicles – Stone Cold
 
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version

Well-known member
Some of his new stuff's decent, the 'Stone Cold'-style switch into the bassline on the second drop in this is good.

 
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