Western Movies

craner

Beast of Burden
Yeah, I know. It was a bad pun-less pun, for which I apologise. Funny you should mention Pupi Avati - I ordered that very film from Amazon this week.
 

bassnation

the abyss
oliver craner said:
Fulci made a couple of westerns. Why move on? I like Four of the Apocalypse, although it's brutal

its a pity he never combined this with his other big genre films- a zombie cowboy movie would truly be a wonder to behold.
 

bruno

est malade
oliver craner said:
He also made a giallo called Don't Torture a Duckling and that's an amazing film.

i have just finished watching it. this film has all the right elements. gorgeous women, great soundtrack (and very liberal use of it). what else. a lynch mob, backward villagers. the boy in the well, the seizure sequence, the bedroom sequence (hmm). nice little film! thanks for the recommendation.
 

ivansmagghe

in the wrong meeting
gay western

ah ok.

check Nicholas Ray's johnny guitar. a proper western with massive lesbian/impotence subtext. amazing.
 

michael

Bring out the vacuum
owen said:
having said that it can be nice occasionally to watch something, er, meditative...
Yeah, I totally agree with you. I find Westerns so damn boring, it seems very pot/kettle to be slagging the straw man of art-house in favour of something so slooooooooow.
 

craner

Beast of Burden
What about the gay cowboy death squad in Django Kill, If You Live Shoot! - not very Brokeback Mountain!
 

Padraig

Banned
bassnation said:
... a zombie cowboy movie would truly be a wonder to behold.

Fulci aside, would this be a "wonder to behold", the unwatchable

Death Valley: The Revenge of Bloody Bill (Byron Werner, 2004)???


"When a group of college kids stumble upon a small abandoned town of Sunset Valley, they must fight a band of Zombies led by a Confederate soldier seeking retribution for his grisly execution ..."

Oliver Craner: ... I like [Fulci's] Four of the Apocalypse, although it's brutal.

Can hardly compare, though, to the [cinematically] ground-breaking The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse (Rex Ingram, 1921), about an Argentinian cattle barron and his two daughters, which some argue was the first-ever anti-war movie [as well as putting Rudolph Valentino on the star-map]:

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That's quite a collection of coyboy zombies, ho ho ho.

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Alternatively, The Four Horseman of the Apocalypse was part of a volume of woodcuts illustrative of the Apocalypse published by Albrecht Dürer in 1498. It is considered to represent Dürer's favorable view of the Reformation, with Babylon standing for Rome: Crusader Cowboys

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Ho ho ho ...

And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

Revelation 6:8

The Biblical Chapter Revelation, is also known as the Apocalypse. The "Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse" were war, conquest, famine and death. A modern version of these four death-dealers might be overpopulation, unsustainable economic development, poverty and environmental degradation.

Ha Ha Ha Ha ...
 

Buick6

too punk to drunk
All the Peckinpah Westerns are fantastic, as are Budd Boettecher's, I recommed '7 men from now' (which just got a nice DVD release) and 'Decison at sundown'.

The Spag western's though are INCREDIBLY critical of the american frontier, starting undisputably classic 'Once Uopn a Time in the West' - yeah got for it you lazy post-modern fascist spastics, the film is untouchable and brilliant, no revision needed, it's PURE.

But Oliver was on the money with DJANGO, KILL, I'd also recommend Corbucci's SUBLIME anti-violence film THE GREAT SILENCE, and for the gays out there Fassbinder's WHITY and Passolini playing Don Juan in KILL AND PRAY.

The world needs more Randolph Scott's rather than gay-wank-fantasies like Drongo Ledger and Jake the Flake Gylenhal.
 
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jenks

thread death
not often that me, my dad and buick are likely to agree

stetsons off to poor old randolph (who was, of course, the queerest cowpoke of them all)

now i wait for padraig's graphic derailing (nice chap{ arf, arf} i'm sure) :D
 

luka

Well-known member
not an inspired or inspiring selection but, a testament to my cultural influence nonetheless
 

luka

Well-known member
so i watched the missouri breaks last night, and, its good and everything, nice, yep, enjoyed it, but what on earth is marlon brando playing at?!
 

carlos

manos de piedra
luka said:
so i watched the missouri breaks last night, and, its good and everything, nice, yep, enjoyed it, but what on earth is marlon brando playing at?!

that's a good question- he seemed to be trying to get on everyone's nerves

you should watch brando's "one eyed jacks" (especially) and "the appaloosa" also- his characters are a little more normal
 

crackerjack

Well-known member
Good thread, worth reviving, if only to mention I watched Geronimo: American Legend last night.

Not great by any means (esp. since Walter Hill directed and Milius scripted), but interesting for way it lays bare the extent of the 'white-eyes'' savagery and systematic political duplicity. Shame that the liberal good guys (Jason Patric, Matt Damon) are pussy-ass bores while the old-fashioned right winger (Robert Duvall) is a macho manly man's man who eats bullets for breakfast.

On a slightly related note, i also just listened to this
http://www.rootsknottyroots.com/dev/single.php?id=102E361B
which is a fucking odd one. Jack Palance as dick, just what the veggie (virgin) wants, over the Heptones' Fat Girl rhythm.
 

empty mirror

remember the jackalope
i just saw Hang 'Em High and it was good except for like a 20 minute love-interest detour (much like the strange "raindrops are falling on my head" interlude in the otherwise tight "butch cassidy & the sundance kid")------delicious moral ambiguity, lots of squinting by clint, and some fine duds on all parties. plus nathan hale (SKIPPER!) as a baddy!

an aside: been ages since i watched a western. will admit to have worn spurs (c'mon---at aged 18) whilst smoking cigarillos. difficult to drive a vehicle wearing spurs.
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Did anyone see the Rich Hall program on Westerns on BBC4 a while ago? Was really interesting. I remember he really disliked spaghetti westerns, though, on the grounds that they were a perverse travesty of the 'true American art form' or something...
 
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