i saw the great silence recently, the corbucci one with kinski. actually preferred it to the leone ones. he's a bit more nihilist i suppose. although leone is undoubtedly the better filmmaker. also love how its set in the snow, like mccabethe wild bunch is great cos theres lots of killing in it. high noon is amazing, its about being a man. very important. once upon a time in the west is bettter than anything in the world. thats a proper film. the searchers is incredible, she wore a yellow ribbon, the spaggetti westerns with eastwood are all fun but not on the level of the ones i just mentioned, great though, plus morricone music, good the bad and the ugly etc. if you don't love those your mentally wrong in the head. josey wales, thats fun, how can you not like that.
this is a different padraig right? this is the one who was the most controversial dissensian of all time?Henry S: and movies like The Wild Bunch and The Unforgiven are great precisely because they critique the western narrative...
Eastwood's Unforgiven ostensibly critiques it only to viscerally, sadistically reinforce it in its violently revenge-deadlocked denouement.
Mister Matthew: yes i think henry s is right, there's a good quote from Warshow, westerns are "an art form for connoisseurs, where the spectator derives his pleasure from the appreciation of minor variations within the working out of a pre-established order"
Yes, but its the exceptions to such lazy genre re-affirmations that ultimately prove the most interesting, connoisseurs 'an all ...
As to the Hat as master-narrative signifier:
Its either himor her
But as cowboys and their headcovers go, this one, The Cowboy, is the most ominous:
Be very afraid, he's a close friend/agent of Tony Blair, and George Bush, and ...
love assault, and love rio bravo. prefer rio bravo.what makes a western a "western"?...is it the hats?...the tumbleweeds?...the narrative?...'cos, John Carpenter's Assault On Precinct 13 is a western in all but setting, essentially a remake of Rio Bravo...and movies like The Wild Bunch and The Unforgiven are great precisely because they critique the western narrative...
i cant remember who it was who said it, but westerns are basically the quintessential movie. cos of the mythic frontier thing, but also cos of aesthetics, it was the best way to make films, very stable light out in the desert, so it made the process easier.and of course they're visually stunning. its story telling on an almost mythical level. nothing in cinema comes close.
i love all the eastwood westerns. josey wales, pale rider, dollars ones. all gold
but maybe the wrongness of it would actually mean its particulalry relevant? doesnt it depend on your own angle of approach?That's not a sentiment I'm 100% convinced of, just seemed right. I could be persuaded otherwise.
Hard to think of a Western that'd speak about current anxieties though.
yeah, and i guess by then it was about recreation in the studio. a lot of filmmaking is getting it done, in terms of production. anything that makes the process easier means the film can focus on the acting, directing, so you don't need to worry about locking off pedestrians or whatever. but certainly a huge part of western appeal is the scope of the landscape. representational of so much more than story.those landscapes are what cinema screens were invented for