Why Conspiracy Theories?
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john eden
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Number one in your field though.
shiels
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Same. I only work for charities and non-profits but corpsey does coke on his lunch and has a bar and barista in his office
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IdleRich
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When I worked in the city (I was a trader not a banker and it was not a bank) there was none of this stuff going on cos it was a very serious Dutch company.
Definitely true about psychos though, the number of times I heard traders say things like "we need a natural disaster to shake things up".
In fairness there was no justification for money from stress or danger it was just "the company has made x money this year, we give y percentage back to the employees in decreasing ratio of how important you are" - that's it.
Leo
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not exactly, but in the ballpark.
craner
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Far Right splinters over Magical Thinking:
www.nbcnews.com
Online far-right movements fracture in wake of Capitol riot
According to researchers who study the real-life effects of the QAnon movement, the false belief in a secret plan for Jan. 20 is irking militant pro-Trump and anti-government groups.
luka
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Many suspect he is the frontman for former President Carlos Salinas de Gortari, while a Mexican researcher said even former presidents are scared of talking about him.
Mexican reporter, writer and filmmaker Diego Enrique Osorno recently published a book of one of the world's “allegedly” richest people, Mexican businessman Carlos Slim, who in 2011 was linked to drug trafficking by a DEA agent. In his book, Osorno writes that former Mexican presidents were “very fearful” of speaking about Slim. In March, Forbes said he was second only to Bill Gates in terms of riches, with a fortune hovering near US$80 billion.
WikiLeaks recently revealed emails dated April 2011, that confirm that Slim is involved in drug trafficking.
The first email is by Anya Alfano of global intelligence agency Strategic Forecasting, Inc., who was tasked with addressing Dell’s concerns about Slim. She wrote to Stratfor's head of intelligence Fred Burton:
“Do we have any information about where Carlos Slim fits into the [drug) cartel dynamics that we’ve seen in Mexico? … Should clients have any concerns about dealing with him professionally?”
Burton then asks DEA Special Agent William F. Dionne the question:
“Billy, is the MX billionaire Carlos Slim linked to the narcos?”
Dionne replies, “Regarding your question, the MX telecommunication billionaire is.”
At the center of the power elite is Carlos Slim. His estimated net worth of about $60bn places him seventh on Forbes’s international rich list. This one man’s wealth is equivalent to more than 5% of Mexico’s GDP. The core of his empire is América Móvil, Latin America’s largest mobile phone company; its longtime domination of Mexico’s telecommunications industry has kept the nation’s phone rates among the highest in the world, costing the economy an estimated $25bn a year.
Slim also owns nearly 17% of the New York Times, making him its largest shareholder. Like other American news organizations, the Times rarely writes about him and the ways in which he and other Mexican oligarchs have used their power to stymie the tax policies, public investments and income transfers needed to enable more Mexicans to enjoy the type of comfortable middle-class life depicted in Roma, the recent acclaimed film set in Mexico City in the early 1970s.
Mexican reporter, writer and filmmaker Diego Enrique Osorno recently published a book of one of the world's “allegedly” richest people, Mexican businessman Carlos Slim, who in 2011 was linked to drug trafficking by a DEA agent. In his book, Osorno writes that former Mexican presidents were “very fearful” of speaking about Slim. In March, Forbes said he was second only to Bill Gates in terms of riches, with a fortune hovering near US$80 billion.
WikiLeaks recently revealed emails dated April 2011, that confirm that Slim is involved in drug trafficking.
The first email is by Anya Alfano of global intelligence agency Strategic Forecasting, Inc., who was tasked with addressing Dell’s concerns about Slim. She wrote to Stratfor's head of intelligence Fred Burton:
“Do we have any information about where Carlos Slim fits into the [drug) cartel dynamics that we’ve seen in Mexico? … Should clients have any concerns about dealing with him professionally?”
Burton then asks DEA Special Agent William F. Dionne the question:
“Billy, is the MX billionaire Carlos Slim linked to the narcos?”
Dionne replies, “Regarding your question, the MX telecommunication billionaire is.”
At the center of the power elite is Carlos Slim. His estimated net worth of about $60bn places him seventh on Forbes’s international rich list. This one man’s wealth is equivalent to more than 5% of Mexico’s GDP. The core of his empire is América Móvil, Latin America’s largest mobile phone company; its longtime domination of Mexico’s telecommunications industry has kept the nation’s phone rates among the highest in the world, costing the economy an estimated $25bn a year.
Slim also owns nearly 17% of the New York Times, making him its largest shareholder. Like other American news organizations, the Times rarely writes about him and the ways in which he and other Mexican oligarchs have used their power to stymie the tax policies, public investments and income transfers needed to enable more Mexicans to enjoy the type of comfortable middle-class life depicted in Roma, the recent acclaimed film set in Mexico City in the early 1970s.
Woebot
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i am aware of my own privilege. i'm not a particularly wicked person, but it's plain to me in global terms i'm a greedy pig.
and inordinately lucky to be born rich in the west. even to be born poor in the west would be blessing.
i am completely in agreement that this is an unconscious issue. and that's my point - a conspiracy theory points to conscious actions.
that's right - of course. the system is brutally unfair. no argument there.
but, again, we are explicitly talking about conspiracy theories. that's the point i am addressing. and the conspiracy theory is precisely that there IS a supervillain character. groups of them organised together.
i wouldn't argue with the strategy to seek wellness - but if the presumption is (as lorde argues) that you need to do that because the state is actively seeking to annihilate you that's counterproductive. it creates paranoia and mental illness. it's not a helpful suggestion and feeds the idea of victimhood.
i can't agree that it's helpful for oppressed people to think that they are deliberately being targeted. i know @john eden that you're coming from a position of intense compassion and thoughtfulness - but i'm going to have to politely disagree with you.
The thing is, if you think in a hobbesian way, of the state as an embodied being, the leviathan, which it can feel like, then it can be perceived as a supervillain. Obviously it's not a real person, rather is a conglomerate of people, but it acts in such a way, consciously to produce and reinforce inequality and bad shit.
I mean the black 60s idea of 'The man' is about this right? Doesn't matter who the specific man is, they are all acting in the same way towards you. All roads closed to the oppressed.
It doesn't matter if there's not some wizard of oz in the back controlling things, it happens cis of collective apathy and unwillingness to change 4hings as much as it does by any intention.
I mean the black 60s idea of 'The man' is about this right? Doesn't matter who the specific man is, they are all acting in the same way towards you. All roads closed to the oppressed.
It doesn't matter if there's not some wizard of oz in the back controlling things, it happens cis of collective apathy and unwillingness to change 4hings as much as it does by any intention.
