Mr. Tea

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I don't automatically dismiss everything in it as false by definition. There are still some worthwhile investigative journalists.

I'm just surprised to see you trying to dismiss an article simply because it isn't in the Times/Guardian/NYT or whatever.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
This one from Breitbart is genius. The anti-vaxxers are dying and it's the evil pro-vaxxers' fault for making them anti-vaxx in the first place!

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Leo

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FDA just voted against boosters overwhelmingly with much anxiety over harms

From what I've read, that wasn't the reason. They just said the evidence wasn't there to support it, more data/research is needed, could take a few more months. and they wanted to place greater emphasis on reaching the unvaccinated population.

Also:
Though the FDA rejected the booster for the general public by a large margin (16-2), the shot was endorsed unanimously for the elderly and immunocompromised populations in the U.S.
 

mixed_biscuits

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From what I've read, that wasn't the reason. They just said the evidence wasn't there to support it, more data/research is needed, could take a few more months. and they wanted to place greater emphasis on reaching the unvaccinated population.

Also:
There's only an 8-hour meeting to watch
 

luka

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i disagree with eden on this point, or at least, to some extent. i dont think it affects my view of the ant-vax position as such.
i might be wary of that position being used as a vector for something more forbidding down the line but that is different.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
What I see, looking in from the outside, is a social movement that prioritizes the absolute autonomy of the sovereign individual over any concept of responsibility for collective wellbeing, fetishizes an imaginary idea of "purity", and is universally popular among the far right.
 

linebaugh

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wild greens

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A GRANT PROPOSAL written by the U.S.-based nonprofit the EcoHealth Alliance and submitted in 2018 to the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, or DARPA, provides evidence that the group was working — or at least planning to work — on several risky areas of research. Among the scientific tasks the group described in its proposal, which was rejected by DARPA, was the creation of full-length infectious clones of bat SARS-related coronaviruses and the insertion of a tiny part of the virus known as a “proteolytic cleavage site” into bat coronaviruses. Of particular interest was a type of cleavage site able to interact with furin, an enzyme expressed in human cells.

Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist at Rutgers University who has espoused the possibility that SARS-CoV-2 may have originated in a lab, agreed. “The relevance of this is that SARS Cov-2, the pandemic virus, is the only virus in its entire genus of SARS-related coronaviruses that contains a fully functional cleavage site at the S1, S2 junction,” said Ebright, referring to the place where two subunits of the spike protein meet. “And here is a proposal from the beginning of 2018, proposing explicitly to engineer that sequence at that position in chimeric lab-generated coronaviruses.”

I definitely think it was lab leaks these days is it really even a theory anymore
 

sufi

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In response, the CIA and the White House began preparing for a number of scenarios to foil Assange’s Russian departure plans, according to three former officials. Those included potential gun battles with Kremlin operatives on the streets of London, crashing a car into a Russian diplomatic vehicle transporting Assange and then grabbing him, and shooting out the tires of a Russian plane carrying Assange before it could take off for Moscow. (U.S. officials asked their British counterparts to do the shooting if gunfire was required, and the British agreed, according to a former senior administration official.)

“We had all sorts of reasons to believe he was contemplating getting the hell out of there,” said the former senior administration official, adding that one report said Assange might try to escape the embassy hidden in a laundry cart. “It was going to be like a prison break movie.”

The intrigue over a potential Assange escape set off a wild scramble among rival spy services in London. American, British and Russian agencies, among others, stationed undercover operatives around the Ecuadorian Embassy. In the Russians’ case, it was to facilitate a breakout. For the U.S. and allied services, it was to block such an escape. “It was beyond comical,” said the former senior official. “It got to the point where every human being in a three-block radius was working for one of the intelligence services — whether they were street sweepers or police officers or security guards.”

all this and Nigel Farage too
 
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