METAL! Discuss

slowtrain

Well-known member
Any recommendations for recent Black Metal? It's that time of year again...

I have no idea about 'new' stuff (aka i never bother to check when stuff came out), but I can recommend paysage d'hiver - kristall und isa; the ruins of beverast - rain upon the impure; and maybe verdunkeln - Einblick In Den Qualenfall; the new velvet cacoon ifyou haven't checked that out is ace as well

Oh, also the new 'Lonesummer' demo is choice, I think its free as well...
 

CrowleyHead

Well-known member
I'll back up early Korn. They did a great Godflesh fronted by Mike Patton thing. Lost steam fast, but hey.

Also; sludge metal dick-suckers can die in a goddamned fire. It's becoming worse than Black Metal, because at least people call out Black Metal for being overhyped now and again.
 

you

Well-known member
First Korn LP still sounds great, in fact Follow the Leader is good too - all downhill from there though in my opinion. Korn certainly had a guitar sound that was new and unique. I don even want to think about their recent output.

Anyone heard Probot? It's Dave Grohl, but dont let that put you off!
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy

I like this. I ended up listening to some black metal last night via that 'fuck you' thread and I was quite surprised by how much I like some of it. I like the tinniness of it, the absence of bass, polar opposite to most of the music I listen to now (also the pure aggression of it, the only music I listen to currently which compares in this respect is detuned 808-bass-fetishising trap-rap i.e. Lex Luger/Southside On The Track... interesting to parallel that whole sound with metal. I was trawling through old threads on dissensus last night and read with interest K-Punk's attacks on hip-hop, comparing it to the comparatively much-maligned white hair-metal...).

I'm also quite into the (somewhat absurd) imagery/iconography attached to it - black forests, pagan gods etc. - not to mention the (somewhat absurd) culture of violence and nihilism which I've previously read a bit about in books and articles. There's a certain romance attached to this music (it 'MEANS' something) that you don't really find in a lot of 'bass music' or even, come to think of it, rap music. And the ideals really bleed into the musical aesthetic...

Mind you, I was in a pretty bad mood when I listened to this Burzum last night, it satisfied me on an ''I want to listen to something churning and slightly painful'' level...
 

you

Well-known member
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yup , burzum, mayhem etc are amazing - I also really like MGLA and wolves in the throne room ( yeah I know im posting here and the dj screw thread ).... drone and doom metal influences for wittr that sit well with the blackened stuff too...

opinions on fallen the new burzum LP??

OH - and Sunn 0)))'s Monoliths and Dimensions - is great, bit of grower but rdfygkjhkghfhgjhkjhbjhjhvjhvjhv big church is a fantastic track.
 

CrowleyHead

Well-known member
Not into BM as much as I was at one point, but still love it.

Mayhem's "Wolf's Lair Abyss" is a personal favorite. By that point the band devolved from making sort of 'tinny' BM that was more nasal sounding into this wretching, churning thing that doesn't make any sense.

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slowtrain

Well-known member
Love the new Burzum. I mean, doesn't compare to Det Som/Hvis Lyset/Filosofem tryptch, but then pretty much nothing does.

Anyone who says new Burzum sucks is just wrong. It's classic riffs, repetition, the right amount of grit, its just Burzum done really well.

I love black metal, and in relation to corpseys post, I like the more 'non-metal' aspects of it. I hate the technical pretentious stuff (looking at you new Mayhem, WITTR, Blut Aus Nord, etc - the stuff 'metalheads' go wet over - ugh)

I love the shitty, badly played, even more badly recorded teenage stuff.

This is my favourite lately, you really can't beat this tune:

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Love the lyrics!
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Getting back into Black Metal these past few weeks, I think the onset of cold/dark weather has helped initiate this. Also have been feeling so depressed at points that I'm almost sick of trying to make myself feel happy... I love a lot of upbeat/happy music (garage, house, soul etc.) but there's a big part of me that doesn't feel - I dunno - natural or comfortable listening to it. Or at least dancing to it. My inner miserablist ruins any happy-dancing-people night I go to unless I bludgeon it with MDMA or booze. I sort of like embracing the anger instead of trying to ward it off.

Anyhoo, I've been listening to Darkthrone - particularly 'A Blaze In The Northern Sky' and 'Under A Funeral Moon'. I can hear the evolution between the two albums - the first is much more riff-heavy and also quite funny at points (probably unintentionally), with the gargle-voiced ''face of EVULLL!'' stuff. '... Funeral Moon' is much more relentless and crushing - the flurrying downpour of snares and cymbals and screams is quite overwhelming... I also can see how ambience relates to BM, since at a certain point that constant unvarying aggression becomes almost soothing, it creates a steady mood.


Also this is one of the greatest interviews ever recorded

 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Uhhh because its funny when he pauses for ages and then drinks the wine, obviously, not the stuff about ''removing all semitic roots'' from culture. :eek:
 

CrowleyHead

Well-known member
Uhhh because its funny when he pauses for ages and then drinks the wine, obviously, not the stuff about ''removing all semitic roots'' from culture. :eek:

Nowadays Gaahl is more concerned with making sure his boyfriennnn gets taken seriously at Burberry, but different strokes... ?

I wish I could talk about metal with much more passion than I do these days, but it's because it's just not as fun for me as it was when I was in my teens, and lonely, and angry, and all those myriad of cliches. I'm still all those things NOW, but...

Also, this...
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Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Not black metal by a long chalk but Devin Townsend is playing a one-day metal festival here next month. Got my ticket and dug out an old tour T-shirt of his, was kind of shocked to see it's from 2001. Like, shiiit, I was an UG back then! I'm trusting he still knows how to put on a show and will play plenty of old tunes back from when he made genuinely innovative music rather than very heavy pop songs with ludicrously OTT production.
 

jackjambie

Voodoo Priest
Getting back into Black Metal these past few weeks

Absolutely mental coincidence, but same here.

Been brewing up for a while and then went to the wire talk not that long ago which was excellent and a complete goldmine for bangers.

Current enjoying - early darkthrone, Viking era bathory, nortt, forgotten woods and vlad tepes. Gorgoroth too sort of, though well aware that they're a bit of a parr with all the controversy.

Obviously everyone should watch that 'until the light takes us' (?) documentary and also there's a newish book with all the different authors called 'black metal - beyond the darkness.' excellent stuff.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Not black metal by a long chalk but Devin Townsend is playing a one-day metal festival here next month. Got my ticket and dug out an old tour T-shirt of his, was kind of shocked to see it's from 2001. Like, shiiit, I was an UG back then! I'm trusting he still knows how to put on a show and will play plenty of old tunes back from when he made genuinely innovative music rather than very heavy pop songs with ludicrously OTT production.

Just got back from this. DT put on a great show, as always, even played a few songs from 10-15 years ago when he a messed-up furious bipolar weirdo smoking a ton of BC chronic every day.

Meshuggah were...interesting, enormously impressive with their mad polyrhythms and general combination of heaviness/speed/complexity, but I just can't get through vocals that go GWWURRAAAGHHHHHKKHHHHHH!!!!!
 
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