Italian Election

crackerjack

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So, Berlusconi lost his immunity then (I'm a bit late with this I know). Does that mean there is any realistic chance of him going to gaol or whatever? How does it affect Mills? What about the ginormous fine to his family company, are they gonna make that stick or will he wriggle out of that? I guess it's just more and more legal process without anything ever actually happening in the end. I'm just interested in how he argued that it was constitutional for him to have immunity from prosecution even though the constitution specifically says that no-one (except the speaker or something) should have such an immunity.

Mills' appeal against his sentence (4 years?) begins on Friday, I believe. He'll testify for Silvio too, should his case come to court, though presumably this time without the incentive OF A MASSIVE GREAT FUCKING BRIBE.

The Big B in jail? Not gonna happen, really, but he could conceivably be forced from office. And not before time. Speaking of right-wing Italian wankers, I hear (Liverpool's crocked signing) Aquilani's a big fan of Mussolini - and he doesn't even have the excuse of being ex-Lazio.
 

scottdisco

rip this joint please
You could say, and "moderate" conservatives were saying in Brussels, that the Italian judiciary had proved Italy remained a liberal democracy by stripping Berlusconi of immunity from prosecution. Yet Berlusconi has seen off the judges before. In any event, even if he falls or, more likely, retires, Italians will not expect his corrupt system to go. Berlusconi's private channels are unlikely to become beacons of public-service broadcasting after his departure. The quaintly titled "post-fascist" leader Gianfranco Fini will not give up a system of patronage and censorship in which the state can organise advertising boycotts of critical papers and force out editors who report unwelcome news.

The most telling feature of the caudillos of our day is the ease with which they put aside nominal ideological differences and recognise each other as members of an international freemasonry of autocrats. Berlusconi denounces investigating magistrates as "communists" and yet calls the former KGB man Vladimir Putin "his great friend". The nominal socialist Chávez allies with the Islamist reactionary Ahmadinejad. What unites the boss men of the 21st century is more important than what divides them.

here
 

scottdisco

rip this joint please
awesome, Ollie, just awesome.

sounds like the flashiest thing Hauer's done since Flesh & Blood.

or the seediest since Bleeders.

maybe both.
 

Mr. Tea

Shub-Niggurath, Please
(to be sung)

Oh Georgia Meloni,
Don't let me be lonely,
Toniiiight.

You got me sprong,
And it feels oh so wrong,
And yet so very (far) riiight...
 
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entertainment

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on twitter i noticed a lot of people swooning over that speech. americans who are disillusioned with liberal progressivism seem on the take for that sort of pastoral fairy tale.

bit worrying how much and how many have acquiesced to let their politics play out below the cerebral cortex.
 

Leo

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on twitter i noticed a lot of people swooning over that speech. americans who are disillusioned with liberal progressivism seem on the take for that sort of pastoral fairy tale.

bit worrying how much and how many have acquiesced to let their politics play out below the cerebral cortex.

C-PAC (Conservative Political Action Conference) here recently had Viktor Orban as opening speaker. He was enthusiastically received as a champion of illiberal democracy, applauded for assailing progressives, globalists, illegal immigrants, Soros, etc. He's also been fawned over by Tucker Carlson on Fox News.

The world is fucked.
 
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