That excerpt from the new Khanate is really sparse, terrified, screechy, flayed of throat, love it... I like the way vocalist chap shrieks in a tone of flabbergasted anger the whole time, but its kind of the opposite of cookie-monster style grunting, its not an instrument that betrays brutish machismo, just appalled, ridiculous horror...
Red Sparowes/Pelican/Isis/Khanate
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Sounds like a Whitehouse gig I saw a few years ago! Could hardly walk afterwards.
cheers for the link jasonh and I'm with you on that one sef.
Yeah he's got an interesting style. You might like this album from Old, gek-opel, definitely one of my favourite out of print `90s Earache releases.
Yeah he's got an interesting style. You might like this album from Old, gek-opel, definitely one of my favourite out of print `90s Earache releases.
mistersloane
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And that's different from the rest of the albums on this thread how exactly?
I thought that we'd moved on from the prog is bad axiom - esp. in a thread dedicated to prog's bastard offspring, metal.
I can see what you mean though. It is a bit over the top (nothing wrong with that imo - esp. in a metalish album). Even though my friends loved it, I didn't get as into their last album which seemed more deliberately proggy and "mature", and less apparently free-form.
I saw both Sunn0))) and Jesu last year and got mindblown both times. Esp Sunn, as ridiculous as their stage act was, it was actually totally beautiful in the end, even more than Jesu, which is totally straight-fwd melodic stuff. Still haven't heard the last Boris thing, I keep hearing it's great.
matt b
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Hmm, they're a bit too post-rock in a Mogwai/GYBE way... no offense - I'm just looking for something more doom/sludge metally...
matt b
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I don't think I've heard anything more evil than Khanate or some Neurosis. Otherwise you probably want some early-ish Godflesh (eg. Streetcleaner, Pure) or maybe Ministry's Filth Pig which seems heavily influenced by Godflesh (I think they toured together previously).
Does Painkiller fit in here if at all? Or am I just doing violence to the definition of prog?
But once you take out the melodic bits the proggish/metally aspect retreats towards a more post-punk vibe a la some Ministry and earlier Godflesh and stuff like early Swans and Killing Joke.
Hm I just thought of another thing: metal = minor key prog. Is that right or should I just bin that theory?:slanted:
Does Painkiller fit in here if at all? Or am I just doing violence to the definition of prog?
But once you take out the melodic bits the proggish/metally aspect retreats towards a more post-punk vibe a la some Ministry and earlier Godflesh and stuff like early Swans and Killing Joke.
Hm I just thought of another thing: metal = minor key prog. Is that right or should I just bin that theory?:slanted:
Certainly not minor key dominated if you listen to the other end of the prog metal spectrum. i.e. blind guardian, dreamtheatre, steve vai etc
There is another strain of prog-ish metal which includes offshoots from black metal and death metal, much of which should float your evil boat. Arctrus, Borknagar, In The Woods, Cryptopsy, Nile etc. Opeth even? I haven't really kept up with black metal movements of late, but no doubt there is some crazy stuff still coming out.
mistersloane
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I'd try Sleep and Om for that stuff. 'Rays Of The Sun/To The ShrineBuilder' by Om, 8.05 of the devils' finest. The bassline make me so horny.
MankyFiver
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don't know if this fits in here but what about Dead Raven Choir, its admittedly acoustic, but done so dark, with whispered and growled vocals, usually the words are poets including rilke, chesterton and even marinetti's "war has a beauty of its won" they also did cohen's manhattan but with the most black metal screamed vocals
all very pretentious but can be quite compelling if tiring, i think the group stopped and is now wolfmangler who are putting out a record on southern
all very pretentious but can be quite compelling if tiring, i think the group stopped and is now wolfmangler who are putting out a record on southern
throughsilver
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A decade old, and the best:
Miles heaver than Sparowes/Isis/Pelican, and infinitely deeper (for my money). Ridiculously tough going to begin with (there is a period of about four minutes of the opening track which will test mettle), but perserverence really pays off.
If you're into Khanate (RIP), then Crippled Lucifer (Seven Psalms For Our Lord Of Light)
by Burning Witch is essential. Pretty much a very similar thing, but years before.
Also, the last Earth album is really great stuff. So clean-sounding compared to their earlier output, it is incredibly grand. Albeit in a rather understated way, if that makes any sense.
I thought it was great; the opening song is one of the best things they've done. I have to say, though, that their more recent Dronevil -final- is really impressing me on initial listens.
OM! Of course..."Conference Of The Birds" on Holy Mountain is absolutely glorious and essential. One of the finest discs I've heard this year. The lead vocalist has managed to turn his performance into an echoey drone and the bass is exactly as described above
And "Through Silver In Blood" is a MONSTER.
It's out now on Southern Lord, 2 CDs. A bunch of other people are on it too, including Rex Ritter of Jessamine and Steve Moore of Earth. Carlson indeed plays on the bonus track, "Her Lips Were Wet With Venom" (oi, those song titles . . .).