Mel Gibson - APOCALYPTO

DJ PIMP

Well-known member
...aint nothing wrong with being mental, you should hear my interpretations of polynesian oral traditions and interactions with other cultures from pre history. It makes the black atlantic look positively shallow :D
Mental was a compliment. Do tell us your fruitcake ideas!

The thing that gets me about ancient or "primitive" cultures is how different the rhythm is, like the druids allegedly reading the trees. So much of that intuitive sense of nature gets lost in Christianity because it becomes abstracted to agrarian symbolism, i.e. Christ and the bread (flesh of the land) and fishes (flesh of the sea). In fact thats interesting because doesn't he pull them out of a sack/bag? Which would represent the unconscious in one sense. Hmmm...

FWIW my birthday is 20/12 and the 2012 galactic equinox is what's significant about that date...
Yes, I too have seen the diagrams and the way it overlays with the Mayan spaceman art. Haha.

Auspicious numbers all around.

BTW I love talking to crackpot nu age quasi christians. Incidentally was she going on about the collective consciousness being a critical mass of the christ consciousness we tap into or heaven as a dimension of thought in string theory that we tap into and project ???
Nope, nothing quite that far gone. She identified with Jungs big-picture ideas and that this was what most people needed, but said that reading a bit of Jung was better than reading the Bible... which to me represents a gross misunderstanding of Jung's ideas - he wrote about the unconscious from a historical/religious perspective and in his autobiography writes what he called his "personal myth", but never created a collective (unconscious) myth.

I agree though - it is interesting to see where the true believers are at. I can't really say I'm any less crazy than they are. Well, maybe marginally so on occasion. I'm not always sleepwalking, I almost know that for sure!
 

gek-opel

entered apprentice
@ Undisputed truth: yr presumably aware of the smoking black obsidian mirror/Tezcatlipoca shiz, yes?

Tezcatlipoca, literally translated, means Smoking Mirror. This refers to a mirror made of polished black obsidian, his (Tezcatlipoca's) omniscient window to the entire world. He is often shown with a smoking obsidian mirror located at the back of his head, and another which replaces one of his feet.

Thats's Aztec tho, Mayan's were more into their Tepeu and Gucumatz.
 
^^^hah no, but that is interesting might have to look that shit up now. edit : well actually that's not quite true i do recall a connection but not to the extent that i can now just google stuff without spending a day in the library looking up other stuff as i did back in the day

My fascination was always with maya and olmec not so much aztec who were pretty much johnny come latelys equivalent to later polynesians who by the time of european colonization had pretty much stopped voyaging and trading jade and obsidian...

...not quite similar to the god tezcatlipoca although the obsidian thing is. My dream was like a snow white/evil queen thing. I looked into it and after the smoke cleared a little I saw this deformed reflection which kind of stunned me and i woke up in a cold sweat. It was a while ago so maybe things have changed since then but somehow...:eek:

Maybe like kramer and his racist retorts, in times of anxiety our true nature reveal themselves and underneath we arent as nice as we'd like to think we are...
 
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blunt

shot by both sides
I love the fact that it's called Mel Gibson's Apocalypto. With no hint of irony.

Is he the new Gerry Cottle?
 

John Doe

Well-known member
This may sound like a weird question, but in the name of all infidels I wonder: Do you have to study the relevant Bible parts before seeing "The Passion of the Christ" in order for it to be worthwile, or is it pedagogical enough in its own right?

Nah - don't bother reading the book. I'd recommend the original moivie though - The Life of Brian. The problem is Gibson's remake is nowhere near as funny as its predecessor :eek:
 

gek-opel

entered apprentice
I love the fact that it's called Mel Gibson's Apocalypto. With no hint of irony.

Is he the new Gerry Cottle?

Err yes- it just highlights how bizarre the whole project is. The cheesiness of "Mel Gibson's..." makes it sound like some kind of low rent horror sequel or something. Also "Apocalypto" what the fuck? An Eschatological Calypso?
 

noel emits

a wonderful wooden reason
An Eschatological Calypso?

Great as that sounds, according to wikipedia -

The title Apocalypto is a Greek verb (αποκαλύπτω) meaning "I reveal" [5]. The word "Apocalypse," Greek "Αποκάλυψις," which means "Revelation," is derived from this Greek verb, but the movie is not religiously themed or connected to the biblical Apocalypse.

Mel Gibson's I Reveal
 
When hasn't he been though ??? Maybe he really thinks he is the road warrior...
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DJ PIMP

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Hmm. He's really on a messianic trip with this isn't he?
Mad Max, Braveheart, Hamlet, Passion, Apocalyptica.

He progresses from post-apocalyptic actor to the director of the apocalypse. He said that the Holy Ghost spoke to him during the filming of Passion. Seems like a case of archetype possession. The closest he came to breaking through was probably his "crazy" character in the Lethal Weapon series, or perhaps the Man Without A Face.

Makes me laugh that the guy playing Christ was allegedly hit by lightning when filming the sermon on the mount:

“'I was lit up like a Christmas tree,' the actor told Hannity. 'It felt as if I had two hands slapping my head and all of a sudden I had 200 extras scurrying. I had no idea what happened. All I was seeing was pink and a kind of a fuzzy static in front of my eyes.' Caviezel said that when one of the crew came over to check if he was OK, he [Michelini] was struck by lightning, too. Asked if he thought the lightning strike was 'a sign from God,' Caviezel told Hannity, 'I think the whole thing has been that way.'”

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Also according to IMDB: It's Mel Gibson's hands that nail Christ to the cross during the Crucifixion scene. The decision for his small cameo in the film was explained by a quote from Gibson who said "It was me that put him on the cross. It was my sins [who put him there]."

The disembodied hand of "god"?
 
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mms

sometimes
meditate on mel

forget what he looks like close your eyes and repeat the words mel gibson in your head till you realise how silly they sound.
then look at a picture of him in braveheart.
Its terrifying.:rolleyes:
 
New Gibson movie accused of racism
08 December 2006


GUATEMALA CITY: Much like his bloody epic about the death of Christ, a new Mel Gibson production about the collapse of the Mayan civilisation is angering members of the culture it depicts even before it hits the screen...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3892210a1860,00.html

looks like the sensationalist hollywood jewish imperium has still got it in for the road warrior...

...surely they could do better than a 23 yr old activist as reputable source though, I wonder how much they paid him ???

I'm fizzing at the bung just thinking about seeing it !!!
 

DJ PIMP

Well-known member
"No such chance to feel like they gave at the office awaits the unfortunates gathered for the genuinely-insane Mel Gibson's latest Guignol epic Apocalypto, a gore-steeped allegory of a theocracy ruled by arcane rituals, violence, and fear."

"Just as Gibson's Christ is in steely ass-kicking mode when he rises from the dead in the closing moments of The Passion of the Christ, so, too, is Apocalypto constantly informed by the looming arrival of Spanish Conquistadors and the sanguine imposition of some more of that old-time religion. On second thought, I wonder if it's not a pretty useful allegory for the United States in the first part of the 21st century after all."

http://www.filmfreakcentral.net/screenreviews/bloodapocalypto.htm
 
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