luka

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ive been thinking more generally about pubs and how so many pubs specialise in creating an atmosphere of total alienation. which i sort of dont mind. and that its so often a choice between alienation and trespassing on someone elses territory, whether thats old irish alcoholics, old cockney alcoholics or old west indian alcoholics.
 

luka

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usualyl i'll choose alienation. music that no one likes, upholstery no one likes, decor no one likes and beer no one likes.
 

luka

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when i look for a pub my criteria is that a) its not too gross and b) it has zero customers.
 

luka

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i consider myself a specialist of finding pubs that are not that bad but no one on planet earth likes or would ever go to. theyre the ones i frequent.
 

shakahislop

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ive been thinking more generally about pubs and how so many pubs specialise in creating an atmosphere of total alienation. which i sort of dont mind. and that its so often a choice between alienation and trespassing on someone elses territory, whether thats old irish alcoholics, old cockney alcoholics or old west indian alcoholics.
the one pub that's left in our village suffered from having three guys, who my dad kindly refers to as 'the three idiots', sat at the bar all the time no matter who the landlord happened to be at any given moment. making it their territory. its annoying when its other people doing it. nice when you do it.
 

luka

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ive got a horror of talking to people but more especially getting embedded in a social circle. whereas my collegue woospie goes to the pub specifically to be part of a community of alcoholics. and sometimes i envy him that warmer more social life. but i could never do it. i value nothing more than my invisibility.
 

luka

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@craner is like me. he literally doesnt know a single person in all of wales to even nod and say hello to. after living there for the last 15 years. i respect that and relate to it.
 

luka

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woopsie can walk into any pub in n16, and this is no exaggeration, and there will be an elderly alcoholic he knows and can sit down and have a drink with. theres is no pub in the world i can do that in. im not sure if thats a good thing or a bad thing but its one of the major differences between us, hes a social butterfly and an extrovert i am an extreme recluse
 

craner

Beast of Burden
@craner is like me. he literally doesnt know a single person in all of wales to even nod and say hello to. after living there for the last 15 years. i respect that and relate to it.

I can't stand "Welsh" people. People who live in Wales, though, I don't mind. As long as they're alright.

Does that make sense?
 

luka

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but what im getting at is you would never frequent a premises with an eye to weaving your way into the social fabric so that it becomes a place where everyone knows your name. the very idea would give you an anxiety attack. that is the difference between introverts and extreme extroverts like woops.
 

luka

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this happens to me at coffee shops. because i get one on my way to work in the morning. once they start recognising me the pressure is on. i don't like it.
thats when i would stop going. even though i have spent years as the person who recognises you and from that side of the counter it feels quite nice.
 
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