Environmental Collapse: when and how bad?

droid

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SST is off the charts this year. First a huge anomaly in the Pacific, now this. Its too early to be attributed to El Nino.

 
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version

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This wildfire business in Canada seems to have been going on for an age now. I keep seeing reports of various people being evacuated, the military being deployed.

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There's attention on some tropical storm moving towards California too. Flood warnings and the rest.

These extreme weather events seem increasingly common, although it may just be that I'm more conscious of them and the reporting these days. If they are increasing then it feels as though we're absorbing them and pulling them into the norm the way some don't bat an eye at the latest American shooting.

I'm doubtless overlooking a lot of work going on behind the scenes and on the ground re: tackling these things, but I don't get a sense of people being galvanised by this stuff the way they were with, say, George Floyd. It feels more like the way people over here respond to news of a car bomb in the Middle-East. An unfortunate but relatively abstract incident that's just part of the fabric.
 
Clinamenic

Clinamenic

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version said:
This wildfire business in Canada seems to have been going on for an age now. I keep seeing reports of various people being evacuated, the military being deployed.

ONKH6XOJNZJIJBEKHWLNNLUNAA.jpg


There's attention on some tropical storm moving towards California too. Flood warnings and the rest.

These extreme weather events seem increasingly common, although it may just be that I'm more conscious of them and the reporting these days. If they are increasing then it feels as though we're absorbing them and pulling them into the norm the way some don't bat an eye at the latest American shooting.

I'm doubtless overlooking a lot of work going on behind the scenes and on the ground re: tackling these things, but I don't get a sense of people being galvanised by this stuff the way they were with, say, George Floyd. It feels more like the way people over here respond to news of a car bomb in the Middle-East. An unfortunate but relatively abstract incident that's just part of the fabric.
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There was just that pro-environmental ruling in Montana, with implications around our constitutional right to a clean climate. Haven't really dug into it, but people have been celebrating it.

 
Mr. Tea

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version said:
This wildfire business in Canada seems to have been going on for an age now. I keep seeing reports of various people being evacuated, the military being deployed.

ONKH6XOJNZJIJBEKHWLNNLUNAA.jpg


There's attention on some tropical storm moving towards California too. Flood warnings and the rest.

These extreme weather events seem increasingly common, although it may just be that I'm more conscious of them and the reporting these days. If they are increasing then it feels as though we're absorbing them and pulling them into the norm the way some don't bat an eye at the latest American shooting.

I'm doubtless overlooking a lot of work going on behind the scenes and on the ground re: tackling these things, but I don't get a sense of people being galvanised by this stuff the way they were with, say, George Floyd. It feels more like the way people over here respond to news of a car bomb in the Middle-East. An unfortunate but relatively abstract incident that's just part of the fabric.
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Heard on the radio this morning: somewhere in California has received more rain in one hour than in all its previously recorded history.
 
Clinamenic

Clinamenic

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Mr. Tea said:
Heard on the radio this morning: somewhere in California has received more rain in one hour than in all its previously recorded history.
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I’m actually in NYC at the moment, but I do know things are insane back there. EG the high desert will be getting more rain in a day than it does all year.
 
Mr. Tea

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Clinamenic said:
I’m actually in NYC at the moment, but I do know things are insane back there. EG the high desert will be getting more rain in a day than it does all year.
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But you just know there won't be any infrastructure to usefully store any of it, so they'll be back to the usual drought conditions next summer.
 
Clinamenic

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Mr. Tea said:
But you just know there won't be any infrastructure to usefully store any of it, so they'll be back to the usual drought conditions next summer.
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Yeah unfortunately thats what I expect. In the high desert though, all this will fill up the aquifers and ensure that our wells are stocked up. Not sure if anything comparable happens in the more urban/suburban areas though, or if all the runoff will just get piped out into the ocean.
 
Mr. Tea

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A paradoxical effect of massive flooding is often a shortage of drinking water, since agricultural run-off and so on can get washed into aquifers and contaminate them.
 
Clinamenic

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Mr. Tea said:
A paradoxical effect of massive flooding is often a shortage of drinking water, since agricultural run-off and so on can get washed into aquifers and contaminate them.
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Interesting, never thought about that. When I get back home in a couple weeks, it'll probably be the greenest I've ever seen it, EG Hollywood hills and Laurel Canyon.
 
mixed_biscuits

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Mr. Tea said:
Heard on the radio this morning: somewhere in California has received more rain in one hour than in all its previously recorded history.
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Is Somewhere, California where people move to from Nowheresville?

How many of the Canadian wildfires were due to arson, like the ones in Greece?

The wet desert trend sounds like one of the Global Boiling advantages in the IPCC report.

Meanwhile, scientists and politicians work together to suppress their own research on the crapness of low emission zones: https://news.sky.com/story/london-mayor-sadiq-khans-office-accused-of-alarmingly-cosy-relationship-to-silence-ulez-criticism-12943821
 
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