I watched every single episode of the sopranos in just over six weeks

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nomadologist

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Anyone else ever do this? It's a pretty jarring process with The Sopranos, because of the years between the series and the way that you see the characters grow old incredibly rapidly — like those sped up films of blooming flowers etc— but it's also a pretty great way of watching TV because it really intensifies your relationship with the characters. My reasons for doing this were 1) unemployment and 2) not being able to get regular TV in my flat, which means I have to download everything I watch 3) wanting to see what was the better series: The Wire or The Sopranos. I'm actually siding with The Wire, but there's really not much in it. All thoughts on TV-viewing strategies and The Wire vs The Sopranos throwdown welcome...

heh this is funny to read--i don't watch TV at all, and mob movies and shows weren't allowed in my house when i was kid, so i never saw sopranos the first time around.

so my boyfriend and i started watching it a few weeks ago and we're just up to the fourth season. it's, of course, amazing. i love love the overly Freudian therapist and the subplot that forms around his relationship with his therapist/therapy.

RE the Wire, that show has been described to me as the most accurate portrait of american culture and law enforcement that's ever been filmed, so i really want to see it
 
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nomadologist

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That said, i watched an ep. of season 5 las night where Janice has to go anger management classes after beating up a soccer mom. She's doing really well (suspiciously well, but never mind), until Tony comes round to dinner, gets jealous at her new self-control and deliberately winds her up to snapping point.

Has there ever been a nastier, more despicable hero?

the portrayal of typical calabrese family dynamics in that show is uncannily accurate
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Janice is a character you love to hate, she's just so perfectly awful. Though of course in many ways she's no worse than Tony - it's great when those two are at each other. :D
 

Gabba Flamenco Crossover

High Sierra Skullfuck
I don't have a TV so the opportunity to watch intensively something that's had alot of work put into is great; I type opposite a picture of Omar. The Wire might be a boy's thing, but it's fucking got a revolutionary character in terms of homosexual realism in him.

Don't know how realistic Omar is but he's certainly an enormous 'fuck you' to the homophobia endemic in rap culture - and like your Brixton drag queen, maybe he's so outlandish that he has to be real.

But I agree that with him and Greggs in it, the Wire has two of the best and most sensitively drawn gay characters ever to appear on TV.

Brother is a bit cartoon-y (knowingly so - cf. the gothic Batman-esque reunion between him and Omar) but the scene where he meets Avon in the barbers is maybe my favorite from the whole of S3 - where Avon clocks him and this shadow of fear passes across his face, and you get a glimpse of the turmoil underneath his composed demeanor - just tremendous acting.
 

UFO over easy

online mahjong
Brother is a bit cartoon-y (knowingly so - cf. the gothic Batman-esque reunion between him and Omar) but the scene where he meets Avon in the barbers is maybe my favorite from the whole of S3 - where Avon clocks him and this shadow of fear passes across his face, and you get a glimpse of the turmoil underneath his composed demeanor - just tremendous acting.

Yeah that is a good scene.. and I'm actually a massive batman fan now you mention it :) I just remember thinking even if that stuff would be really cool elsewhere, it didn't really belong in this particular show
 

mistersloane

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- where Avon clocks him and this shadow of fear passes across his face, and you get a glimpse of the turmoil underneath his composed demeanor - just tremendous acting.

Wood Harris is just ridiculously good throughout, the way he come sout of jail and is slightly not with it for a while is just perfect, he does that slightly spaced and overwhelmed thing just brilliantly, and it's never alluded to by himself or other characters, just a great piece of work.
 

gek-opel

entered apprentice
All about String in S3 innit...?

How he transforms everything into a business operation like a good business studies student, the way the general meetings evolve into ever more organised affairs ("are you minuting this!?") and yeah, when Avon is released, Mouzone arrives and Omar is out for revenge you know there's no way he's going to make it out of the series alive.

Good point about Omar fitting the trickster archetype btw Mr Sloane.
 

crackerjack

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All about String in S3 innit...?

When I saw Wu Tang in hammersmith recently Method Man shouted out that they had Stringer Bell from the Wire backstage (he's actually a Hackney boy). Obviously hardly anyone knew what the fuck he was on about, but I felt more awestruck being in the same room as him as all the Clan put together.
 

hucks

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All about String in S3 innit...?

How he transforms everything into a business operation like a good business studies student, the way the general meetings evolve into ever more organised affairs ("are you minuting this!?") and yeah, when Avon is released, Mouzone arrives and Omar is out for revenge you know there's no way he's going to make it out of the series alive.

It's the development of the relationship beetween String and Avon that makes season 3 for me, how Avon refuses to change, and Stringer can't realise that his old life will always be part of him. That scene they have when they're looking out onto the waterfront, talking about how far they've come, each lying to the other, is my favourite in that series.
 
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UFO over easy

online mahjong
When I saw Wu Tang in hammersmith recently Method Man shouted out that they had Stringer Bell from the Wire backstage (he's actually a Hackney boy). Obviously hardly anyone knew what the fuck he was on about, but I felt more awestruck being in the same room as him as all the Clan put together.

seriously man, don't.

I found the myspace for his "rap" persona the other week... I'm still getting over it http://www.myspace.com/idrismusic

Jesus. I don't know how he could even show his face around Method Man when they were on set. Still, big up the English connection..

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It's the development of the relationship beetween String and Avon that makes season 3 for me, how Avon refuses to change, and Stringer can't realise that his old life will always be part of him.

"I'm just a gangster I guess. And I want my corners." Good stuff.
 
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mind_philip

saw the light
So without having seen a minute of it, I was gonna ask my girlfriend to get me the first two seasons of The Wire on DVD for my birthday. I'm assuming from this thread that no one is about to try and convince me that this would be a bad decision?
 

crackerjack

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So without having seen a minute of it, I was gonna ask my girlfriend to get me the first two seasons of The Wire on DVD for my birthday. I'm assuming from this thread that no one is about to try and convince me that this would be a bad decision?

Yeah - if she really loves you it should be all three, maybe with a promise of the fourth too when it comes (anyone know when that is released? this thread is making me twitchy).
 

zhao

there are no accidents
you can watch it all for free online at places like this too, if crisp resolution is not all that important when it comes to this show. that's what I'm going to do sometime in the winter months :)

oh by the way they're missing season 1 episode 1 for some reason. but you can download it here

instead of giving up social life, maybe not showing up to work for a while. :D
 
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baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
I watched all 18 episodes of the first three series of Peep Show last weekend whilst in the bowels of an interminable planning session for school. I did it in reverse order, too - 3, 2, 1. Mighty impressive, eh?

A mighty fine decision. "Four naan, Jeremy? That's insane."
 

Gabba Flamenco Crossover

High Sierra Skullfuck
Yeah that is a good scene.. and I'm actually a massive batman fan now you mention it :) I just remember thinking even if that stuff would be really cool elsewhere, it didn't really belong in this particular show

I think the point is that for the other characters in the show, Omar is more of a myth than a real person - so things like the reunion are shown as an urban myth rather than as a factual event, to reflect the way the populace in general would percieve them. Omar is a kind of superhero/villian to most of the other characters, after all.

I agree though that this is handled a bit heavy-handedly at times in the later series. Omar was a way stronger character in S1.
 

robin

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you can watch it all for free online at places like this too, if crisp resolution is not all that important when it comes to this show. that's what I'm going to do sometime in the winter months :)

oh by the way they're missing season 1 episode 1 for some reason. but you can download it here

instead of giving up social life, maybe not showing up to work for a while. :D

i was going to strongly recommend not watching the wire on streaming sites,since one of the many amazing things about it is how beautiful it looks,but actually stage6.com has near dvd quality streaming of all the wire and it loads faster than youtube.
 

robin

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much and all as i love the sopranos,i love how this thread instantly turned into people raving about the wire,it really is that good.

one thing i wanted to point out to everyone is that,unlike anything else i've ever watched,the wire is actually better the second time around.

after the first time i watched it i thought it was the best thing i'd ever seen on tv,but its when you watch it again that it really comes into its own.

the first time around its so overwhelming,and a lot of the time you are just trying to keep up with whats going on,remember who everyone is,figure out whats being referred to,etc.

the second time you can really appreciate it,how nuanced,subtle and intricate every scene is,how nothing happens without a reason,how astonishingly good the entire cast of mainly unknown actors are,how well they use music,how they manage to humanise almost all the characters,(who would have thought you could grow to love bodie so much after what happened with wallace at the end of season one?),in short,how detailed and well thought out the whole thing is.it really is breathtaking.

ive watched it twice since getting into it less than a year ago,and am looking forward to watching it again,i've no doubt that theres loads of stuff that i missed.

one interesting bit of trivia-the guy who plays the deacon (the lovely soft spoken,gentle old church guy in season three and four who advises various people) was the main heroin kingpin of baltimore in real life in the eighties,the avon case in season one is based on te events leading to his arrest.

its worth chechking out the hbo website,there are various interviews with the creators and so on that are fascinating.
 
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