censorship on dissensus: the disappearance of the confessions thread

john eden

male pale and stale
just saw that my COLLAPSE thread is gone too. presumably for sharing a piece of commercially available copywritten material.

understandable, but too bad you can not see the importance of this work beyond stupid petty copy right issues.

I have friends that are friends with Jarred Diamond. I can find out if he minds me giving out his book for free. I bet you my month's salary he doesn't.

Can you also check with his publisher?
 

zhao

there are no accidents
not a response to a specific post, but just thought would be appropriate for this thread:

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brown neon

Member
my contributions to the board are usually pretty well considered and rarely that contentious. they're also generally not rooted in complete fantasy, either.
know what i'm sayin'?

ha ha ha, nomadologist is the best. she used to be a coke dealer, made $500,000, and quit after she killed a man (this is what she told me when I met her actually). also, she can talk to animals and a rich uncle has left her millions of dollars and a huge house in the States, but she isn't allowed to touch it until she is a certain age.
 

bassnation

the abyss
ha ha ha, nomadologist is the best. she used to be a coke dealer, made $500,000, and quit after she killed a man (this is what she told me when I met her actually). also, she can talk to animals and a rich uncle has left her millions of dollars and a huge house in the States, but she isn't allowed to touch it until she is a certain age.

why don't you give her a break? she's also one of the boards funniest, intelligent and lucid contributors. not sure who you are though mate. in addition i think you should stfu about stuff that people have told you in real life.
 
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zhao

there are no accidents
i don't think nomad has ever lied about her own life, how ever fanciful it may sound. (the drugs and the mob family and all that)
 

brown neon

Member
why don't you give her a break? she's also one of the boards funniest, intelligent and lucid contributors. not sure who you are though mate. in addition i think you should stfu about stuff that people have told you in real life.

I don't think so. She's a dullard, an ear-bender on a bad night out. I love her posts though, it's like watching the first round of X Factor.
 

woops

is not like other people
you're in deep shit

brown neon, when she gets back off that night out...
 
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nomadologist

Guest
God, I wish I'd made $500,000 off anything, I could use that right now.

It's funny that people think you'd *have* to be making up the things that have happened in my life. I guess it must seem crazy some of it--it does to me. I've never been comfortable with a lot of things about myself, having never fit in anywhere I've lived until Brooklyn. Then going into the workforce and having to find out firsthand just how fucked up certain industries were.

I know people who have actually *seen* me doing the drugs and certain things I've told you people about who post on Dissensus. Those who haven't I couldn't give two shits about, or what people believe.

What's more tedious--someone writing a post that you find boring, or you making a point of pointing out just how boring someone else's post was? It sure does make you seem like the life of the party when you do that, doesn't it?
 
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nomadologist

Guest
For example: has brown neon *ever* posted anything of value here? Not to my knowledge.
 
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nomadologist

Guest
one of the good things about the internet is the blurring and dissolving of societal boundaries -- as we all sit alone, but together, in private, but in public, sharing thoughts and experiences.

if those people who share personal stories can reflect on them and speak thoughtfully about them, and maybe connect them to global issues, well THAT is what will distinguish this board from Yahoo Chats -- and not the absence of "personal stories" altogether.

a more open forum where people are NOT afraid to reveal more of their inner lives can only be that much more rewarding than this place already is. (it will never become Yahoo Chats because there are not many yahoos here -- insert joke about me being one here)

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how do you determine what is an OK personal story to tell here and what isn't? obviously you can't ban all "personal stories" because all the threads about walks in the park and bicycles would be deleted as well. so... what? no sex? no drugs? what about parties? because they often involve one or the other or most likely both.

it's all connected isn't it, our interest in music and clothes and parties and love and sex and psychoanalysis and theory and captitalism and addiction. and if you start censoring parts of it the slide is looking pretty slippery from here.

and I is gonna turn this whole post teal. just because i like it like that.

I think these are valid points, Zhao. I really honestly enjoy hearing about other peoples' experience in life (even if those include drugs and sex) and love to think of very particular human experiences in the context of the political or of theory or psychoanalysis. I've read some extremely interesting things here about others experiences that have really helped build my interest in certain thinkers or musicians. I like it when people post links and zshares of mp3s and whatever, but I also like it when people interact with each other on a more basic level.

I also think it's kind of sad to that people seem to think someone would share something like their lifelong struggle with drug addiction as a way of "oneupping" anyone or anything. Unfortunately, for me, drug addiction has been a very real, very gutwrenchingly painful and difficult part of my life, and yes, I guess I am always searching for others who might relate because, yes, it does help to feel like I'm not alone. It does. It helps to feel that someone else might understand what it's like to have manic depression that leads to things like drug addiction. These problems can be extremely isolating, even in the midst of hundreds of friends, of frequent parties, of workplace interaction.

As anyone who can relate to these problems *at all* will realize, it is imperative to try to keep a sense of humor about oneself and one's limitations. If I didn't poke fun at myself or make jokes or find the hilarity in certain ridiculous experiences I've had, I'd go crazy. I'm forced to confront these behaviors everyday, as any recovering addict will tell you--otherwise, you are doomed to repeat them.

The most important thing in life, in my opinion, is learning about yourself and trying to get better. I have been doing this for a long time. I am not a perfect person, I'm not an especially good person, I'm not someone to write home about, but I do love my friends and the people who have become my support system and, yes, I do often have to rely on their kindness and ability to listen and comfort me.

When ever last minute of your life is a struggle, you do what you can to survive. That is what motivates me ultimately when I post something silly (or something, that by the sounds of it must come off as "deranged" or "imaginary"??--yes, because everyone's firstline of fantasy is to imagine their lives a shitty fucking wreck at 25 with a hundred thousand dollars in debt and no one but their doctors to turn to for help. my fantasies look more like this--i wake up everyday and do the right thing, avoid self-destruction, and don't spend most of my time on suicidal ideation), or when I try to share how my own drug or sexual experiences have intersected with the things I've studied. There's nothing more human than trying to *relate* to others.

If I am guilty of something here, it is of writing some posts publicly that are really meant more for a few people here with whom I feel much closer than the rest and who I think actually understand me. If this is wildly offensive to anyone, I apologize. I never meant to offend anyone.
 
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nomadologist

Guest
i'm surprised the term "little shit" has not been yet used to address brown neon

Ha.

You know what's funny? Of nearly any American poster here, I know more other posters *in real life* through mutual friends or acquaintances than most others. If what I told people about my life--having family connections in the mafia (my mom's last name is Carbone, read up on the family, have a blast--several of the people have *met* my mom who know these mutual friends), having a hard drug problem for several years, etc (don't know what else sounds imaginary? the jobs i've had? worked for rockefeller university for several years, the princeton review, and also a place called medreviews--call them up and ask them for J3ssica Grav3s if you want to verify)--weren't true, then it seems like these people who know who I am in real life and know my friends well would say something, like "hey you're full of shit* or "are you kidding" or something to that effect. But they don't.

Neither do the people who have *been to my apartment* who post here who have seen me do things that I really shouldn't have done.

But whatever, I'm "imagining" these things.
 
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nomadologist

Guest
why don't you give her a break? she's also one of the boards funniest, intelligent and lucid contributors. not sure who you are though mate. in addition i think you should stfu about stuff that people have told you in real life.

just to clear this up, bassnation, i have no idea who brown neon is and have never ever met whoever it is. thank god.
 
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nomadologist

Guest
i don't think nomad has ever lied about her own life, how ever fanciful it may sound. (the drugs and the mob family and all that)

you know what? i just realized what i think it is--i think if you've never done psychedelic drugs, you don't realize how fucked up and crazy a person's drug/life experiences can be.

that's the only thing i can think of that accounts for it being hard to believe that an italian-american might have a family with mafia connections and a hard drug problem. it's so completely textbook and common that it's almost a cultural cliche in NY. but no, not to brits--to brits it's "imaginary"...
 

zhao

there are no accidents
thanks for addressing the teal post. i don't know why sometimes real stuff gets ignored. maybe because it's so on point that it's hard to reconcile with people's previous position?

I would love to hear Stelfox address the teal post.
 
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