Jesus. That reads like Mary-Anne Hobbs talking about Burial on 20 e's
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Jesus. That reads like Mary-Anne Hobbs talking about Burial on 20 e's
nomadthethird
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hahahahah omg
nomadthethird
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nomadthethird
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Do you think Burial makes a Phoenix rise in Mary-Anne's belly?
Hey now, there's nothing wrong with Hunter, but yes, there is a world wrong with people who have read Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas and decided that being "gonzo" is the perfect answer to becoming a successful writer without actually being a good writer or having any ideas. This is the apathetic middle-class university student's dream: to become famous and admired without putting any of the work in.
It worked when Hunter did it, because he did it in a very unique and motivated way. It is laughable how some of these young writers actually believe that they alone are exciting enough to carry a story.
A girl I know is taking her graduate studies in journalism after an undergraduate degree in political science and writes in this sort of style. Her latest output was a months-long trip to South East Asia, and what happened to her there. Long story short: she got wasted with a bunch of European tourists and it was the third world so it was, like, totally fucked up.
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Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
Do you reckon she bumped into...no, I can't say it.
Mr. Tea
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Haha, no shit - I was talking about Liverpool just earlier to my girlfriend, who did her degree and PhD there, and she was telling me about the yawning cultural chasm, and no small amount of animosity, between the stoodents there (bearing in mid the existence of two other unis apart from Liverpool itself) and the general working-class native population. Hard not to see where that kind of divide comes from when considering people like your fresher dude here.
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nomadthethird
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MIA? ha
I was thinking recently that Sarah Palin is to the right as MIA is to Pitchfork readers: both are undeniably beautiful, sexy, whatever, with a great look, but both are one-dimensional characters whose politics are dodgy at best, downright scary at worst. Both are somehow perfectly emblematic of the "perfect female" according to their respective adoring crowds, but neither crowd acknowledges the inherent contradictions and hypocrisies in this adoration.
I could go on and on...
bassbeyondreason
Chtonic Fatigue Syndrome
I just dropped out of a creative writing course at Uni, see if you can guess why.
Good point, and yes I totally agree. In general, people seem to always like the presentable idea of something, rather than the actual thing itself. Too gritty and time-consuming, and it's much easier (and pleasurable) to stand for something than to actually be it. This is what I hate most about the way people revere celebrities who try (however successfully) to operate on some higher political/cultural level. The devil is in the details.
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nomadthethird
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at my school there were a lot of girls who dressed like a combination of courtney love and my great-grandmother, and they all had radio shows where they played riot grrl anthems for hours and hours...i was all like "the 90s called and they want their shitty music back!"
then there were the white guys who were convinced they were jamaican, i think every liberal arts college has those.
then in grad school i had to share buildings with parsons fashion design classes and they all dressed just like Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen. i swear they'd take people magazine and pick out the exact outfits...
Mr. Tea
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Yeah, if you go out on the lash in Liverpool, the city is very clearly designated into scally, yuppie and student. You don't want to wonder into a club like The Pleasure Rooms with collar length hair and skinny jeans.
nomadthethird
more issues than Time mag
Totally. I know this is petty but it really annoys me that "Paper Planes" is so wildly popular in the U.S. right now, because the only good part of the song is the Clash sample. And whenever I bring that up people are like "what? she didn't write that synth part?" I don't even like the Clash much, but jeeez.
Another instance of this sort of thing are art school students who want to project themselves as "artists" in their stature (eccentric, misfit "genius"es), but don't really care much at all for the actual development and creation of an artistic vision. There is a guy I live with in my shared house; he is a hyper-tense, and extremely nervous religious nut. A sweet enough guy but you can tell his general fear prevents him from having friends, getting girls, and generally fitting into society in such a way that would foster the admiration of young, hip people. I'm not sure they understand that truly being an "eccentric misfit" generally locks them out of the things they actually enjoy. I think it's sort of an affront to those actually awkward or unfortunate types, the way they take their enviable lifestyles for granted (this is essentially, for me, the main problem with "hipsters", but that's another story.)
On the other hand, I have a friend who is actually an extraordinarily gifted artist, and who likely has a long bright future ahead of him in the art game. To meet him he's a very funny, likeable, adjusted guy who mostly likes to talk about girls. So how did he achieve his genius? Well, he sleeps very little and devotes about 10 hours a week to himself, and the rest to tirelessly perfecting his craft.
You'd think this would be common sense.
On the other hand, I have a friend who is actually an extraordinarily gifted artist, and who likely has a long bright future ahead of him in the art game. To meet him he's a very funny, likeable, adjusted guy who mostly likes to talk about girls. So how did he achieve his genius? Well, he sleeps very little and devotes about 10 hours a week to himself, and the rest to tirelessly perfecting his craft.
You'd think this would be common sense.
nomadthethird
more issues than Time mag
You've hit on exactly why people dislike hipsters so much, which is really pretty simple: people with deeply held artistic ambitions look at hipsters, who are basically "image artists" and lack any natural or uncontrived talent for the arts, and see them as charlatans. Sometimes this takes the form of resentment, sometimes it takes the form of a more sincere cultural critique. But in the end, I can't think of any hipsters I know who would *really* want to be social outcasts (like you know Van Gogh or something...) nor are they willing to put in the time required to become a good artist if it's doesn't come effortlessly or "naturally"...they mostly want to be perceived as artists whether they can live up to that or not.
Of course, I think people in all demographics or population groups play the "perception" game socially, so it's not just hipsters...but hipsters seem to have the most ambitious pretensions most of the time.
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Mr. Tea
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You genius! I was trying to find it but I don't think you can get to it from the usual archive links on the SA frontpage any more, for some reason.
Edit: spffffft...
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