hopper

Well-known member
the bishop piano tune is gorgeous, its really nice to have something that coherent. some of this other stuff drives me up the wall, like venetian snares or something
 

yyaldrin

in je ogen waait de wind
He's probably my favourite producer in this field, it's really frustrating I can't get hold of his tracks.

This one is great as well:

 

Benny Bunter

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this mix is HEAVY, gotta listen to this if you're into the tekkz

thanks, this is excellent.

Anyone know of any blogs or forums that cover this stuff regularly? Dave Quam's seems to have gone quiet.
 

AZIZA

Well-known member
Anyone know of any blogs or forums that cover this stuff regularly? Dave Quam's seems to have gone quiet.

No really accurate blogs...the Lit Cit website will have an active Blog with videos, mixes, trax and other exclusives. Give us a month.

I hope someone still has it then and could upload it somewhere. The link on his blog is expired.

Can give you this one for sure. I'll upload this for you.

why they gotta hate on flight muzik? :( That is referring to DJ Diamond, no?

also, does anybody know what beef they have with Chrissy Murderbot nowadays? That's just intriguing as not too many moons ago he was collabing with Spinn and throwing a night with Dave

There's no hate with Flight Muzik mate. They're youngers who don't respect the Tekz. Diamond runs his mouth here and there but no one cares. He actually just tried to flip the It'z Not Rite sample. It's awful.


Compare it to Rashad's and you're gonna understand. This sample borrowing is constant and it's one way. The Tekz do it first always. Then Flight or Bosses come thru and bite off it. No problem really but it's just something to note. Helps realize who the most talented producers are.

T-Why who's ex BOTC was claimin Rashad was shot in his stomach while we were on tour in Europe. That's childish no? So whoever callin us petty, get to kno what the deal is before you make your asinine assumptions. We're good people - there's a reason behind issues.

Chrissy is a whole other story. He is a lame. Outright psychotic. Was telling press before our tour that we were a nightmare etc when we were paying expenses and taking care of our end ourselves. He continued to tell them, he wasn't looking forward to handholding us along the tour. It was his way of making us look bad when his tour fails because he's a con artist. If it suceeded he could look like a patron of the hood. He did tell Wills' buddy that he prefers to be called a 'sissy boy from the hood' lol...I don't want to tell y'all what he told us about his past. It's OC.

He earned the same as 3 footworkers and 2 djs made plus myself earned every night meanwhile wasn't bringing anyone to parties tbh. He'd throw fits and promoters would complain about him regularly. He was a creep when Mike P was around interupting constantly, talking about giving himself a concussion etc. when Mike first met us and was trying to talk trax with us. He would do weird things like take the Serato box home with him trying to sabotage parties, print tickets and not give us our tickets while we would print him his and give him his, steal money from the dancers claiming to be their manager etc. He even tried to have us sent home returning to LDN from Geneva the lil neek.

He lied over and over about his role organising shit and prior to tour was on bs trying to sign Rashad to his label. He was talking to me, negotiating and such, while telling me Rashad said one thing, Spinn said this, Gant said that - meanwhile we are all talking and no one said shit to him. It's all very long but he's a dire human being quite honestly. Even his booking agent quit on him cus he's a proper diva.

His party with Dave was his way of getting in with the Tekz as Quam is Teklife and Dave was ready to quit after two. He never paid anyone shit and was known for stealin trax.

He never collaborated with anyone. He had Gant say some shit 3 years ago as Gant was easily accessible at the time being a DJ all over the city and his track with Spinn is an old tune Rash made and he's just gotten the stems and reworked it innit. LMAO

yea diamond, young smoke and metro i think...aziza's said it before on here, but i think it's mainly because they're a lot younger and use dodgy samples, space imagery, fruity loops etc...same reason they resonate so well with ppl over in the UK i reckon, ironically enough!

mike mu gets his scope PERFECT in his sets i reckon, really representing with lots of tracks from the young guns out there that would be criminally critically underrated if it were'nt for mu (it really is only him pushing any of them right now...)

well worth checking out his recent 'afro-futurist' boiler room mix just for the landslide of super future unreleased young smoke tracks at the start -
ARRRGGHHH! so good! all the unreleased tekkz bits too after! amazing!

as for the murderbot thing - they were trolling the fuck out of him on that same boiler room show, you couldn't get a word in on the chat room and they kept calling him 'murderfag' really really embarassing. some lame excuse given like he said that he would put stuff out for the tekkz guys but then didn't or something...seemed really really petty.

EZ maaaate - AGE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. It's really the constant appropriation of Ghettotekz tracks and the samples in them. It's weird isn't it? Especially if you don't out do the original.

Sampling is an art. If you have to rely on other local producers for samples or ideas something's off innit. I've never heard the Tekz reference the other producers or use their chants or samples.

And when Chris was being hounded on Boiler Room, I was trying to tell that person to stop... that was a weirdo ex of Chrissy not us who he's sueing lol - why the fuck would we be so petty. Can't control someone in Chicago from NYC. We got shit goin on and don't troll like total neeks. We got trax to make, tours to book, interviews to do and records to sort LOL

I can't argue about Mu's representation of the whole scene. Their scope is wide and if not for them, no one would be know who Nate or Roc or Diamond were/are really. However, I would argue his mixing style is that of an outsider. That's fine but pre mixes aren't the same as a live DJ presenting their trax and their contemporaries on some Technics actually mixing in the flesh. A pre mix... they are an enthusiasts curation of trax - just a hobby innit. Sometimes things come in off beat and generally, you'd have to argue that's a no no as it misrepresents the track. A track mixed on beat always will sound better - u can blend it for long it wont clang. The art of mixing is key - look how Traxman or Rashad or whomever makes long blends, makes trax's samples/chants speak to each other/relate etc, cut/chop etc That's the real essence of DJing when you're from Chicago. Bein a good DJ is more than just playing a mix made in logic and using filters and fx live. Either way no biggie just listen to the DJs do their thing and pay attention. If you wanna dj trax and represent the scene. Lol if not do u however u please.

He's probably my favourite producer in this field, it's really frustrating I can't get hold of his tracks.

That's cus he's not a producer. No one in Chicago has heard of him. Double checked for y'all. He's using other people's trax and footworkin to em in videos. Big deal lol he's not around anyway. These are all old as hell.


not in the uk, but still loving the space samples. One thing I've heard them say is that the younger guys don't make music you can dance to, and this may very well be true in that you can't dance to it like you do to more traditional forms of footwork. Idk, it's something that came up in the juke documentary where some of the older dancers were recounting looking at younger generations and being like 'ey they just kickin they feet, that aint dancin'. Some of these alternative juke/footwork artists aren't really making music to battle to, though I guess they can also seem a bit too soft and safe, "intelligent", which is what most people were complaining about in the post-dubstep thread in regarding younger producers in the UK scene.

edit: Young Smoke mix was decent, but the moment that Rashad track came on was the moment I lifted my eyes up from my Angry Birds game like what is this brilliant work of art right here then. Just can't compete with the Tekkz when it comes to raw heat

Props mate. As far as what u said about the Tekz - they're the originators. No one can argue. Anyone else who says otherwise doesn't know what they're talking about.




I'm going back again to the Chi Monday. Playin in Ohio on Tuesday: Rashad Manny Litebulb n myself. Then back to the Chi. Monday after Tim and Akinola from Tim and Barry/DontWatchThatTV come to the Chi. We're gonna do a JustJam from Chicago, set up regular stream spots from Spinn's basement and Traxman's lab. Also, we'll be shooting many music videos.

LitCityTV will be back soon.

As for Tribe media on YouTube I'd ignore most of it. They're a bunch of snakes. We brought their Chief to nyc 3 times and the 3rd time he robbed us of 2k which was what we were gonna use to press a Rashad 12" with. Tribe don't go to any events anymore. They've only been at one place and there was security there. They're in hiding because of this and many other disputes for shady shit they've been on. It's funny and sad.

I'll get some real shit on the net this month for all y'all. Much love.
 

rrrivero

Well-known member
Thanks, AZIZA, you're our window into Chicago. As for sampling: I don't think copying sample flips is such a bad thing, even that can be done artfully and producers have conglomerated around certain samples for ages. It's a different matter when young guys are disrespecting while they doing it though, because how can you be a dick if you found the sample thanks to the guy, and that Diamond sample flip of Itz not Rite is kind of shit indeed.
 

gumdrops

Well-known member
producers using the same samples is cool with me - as long as they do something else with it rather than just loop it. thats what competition is about i thought, seeing who can do something better with it. but all that stuff is interesting. i still like the diamond album. the first half especially. and i have to confess that even though rashad and spinn seem to get a lot of props for being the 'best' producers, i still hear stuff of theirs that doesnt always sound that technically accomplished either... that just seems to be what footwork is about.
 

rubberdingyrapids

Well-known member
well hey its good that in chicago, people still seem to care about scene authenticity (no matter what you think of the rules and politics that involves). cant imagine anyone in grime these days saying anything like that.
 

jackjambie

Voodoo Priest
Thanks, AZIZA, you're our window into Chicago

yea, absolutely second that! big ups aziza don, and my bad on the false accusation with the boiler room chat room thing. was really hard to tell what was going on to be honest! but i do remember you telling him to calm the fuck down actually now. that guy was fucking awful though wasn't he!?! top neek! haha!

it is a bit weird with the ripping off thing from the younger ones...i remember with grime early on there was all of that stealing beats and stuff going on and people vocalling tunes in reaction getting really vexed...glad to be a bit of an outsider to the politics of this one, cos all the music sounds great! haha! ;)

don't doubt that the tekkz are running things right now either, don't think anyone on here does mate tbh! respect where it's due!!! just loving so much of the footwork sound atm really wanna support it all! nice 1 :)
 

jackjambie

Voodoo Priest
my days, yes sarantis is doing some absolutely incredible stuff at the moment at this speed! him, lenkemz, warlock, ebola and all the other UK artists dabbling in footwork / juke are churning out some absolute ravey bangers which are all keeping me very very happy at the moment.

some incredibly succesful collabs going on with lenkemz atm too.

http://soundcloud.com/djflawlez/lenkemz-flawlez-big-tune

http://soundcloud.com/lenkemz/traxman-blow-yo-shit-lenkemz

oh plus, the rashad + distal team up of recent has not only given birth to this piece of 2 rude vocal science fiction, but also a double b side of jungle / hardcore bootlegs (!). it's almost too good to be true isn't it!

 
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