you people ha ve a high tolerance for 'wackiness'....
very much a scientists sense of humour i think
very much a scientists sense of humour i think
as well as being wacky though, he's taught me more about our world than any other author of fiction i've come across... and yeah, maybe that's because i didn't know much to begin with... but even on a basic level, there's no other author that would get me reading about euclidean geometry or trying to understand feynman lectures...
yeah, one of my friends read one of his books a few years ago (cryptonomicon i think) and said i'd really like it. what do you recommend??
He looks like he has a really cool beard - very ming the merciless.
Nah, I know what Luka means, there is something wacky about having characters called Eigenvalue or Dewey Gland. It's not hard to imagine those names said by a nasal and annoying US comedian with nerdy glasses."Pynchon is a fucksight less 'wacky' than Reza Negarestani, I'll give him that much."
Nah, I know what Luka means, there is something wacky about having characters called Eigenvalue or Dewey Gland. It's not hard to imagine those names said by a nasal and annoying US comedian with nerdy glasses.
Sounds like a Kosmische dj line-up Stan d'Arde Lamp seems to stick in my mind."I have to confess, if I were ever to get around to writing a novel, I'd probably find it hard to resist the temptation to create characters like this. In fact I've already got a small stock of them in my head: Duncan de Sorderlie, the notorious libertine and reprobate; radical feminist 'Militant' Millicent; avant-garde jazz virtuoso Drummond Basie; veteran roadie Marshall Stack; you get the idea..."
My favourite RAW one is the Male Chauvanist Organisation or MaChO.
excellent if you want to learn far more about early-modern European history than you ever did at school! ].
I'm afraid I find this recommendation rather unappetizing, like a computer game where you vapourize baddies through the power of MATHS!
unless this was intentionally a jest, in which case I am a tool and I humbly apologize.
haha, i don't think it was a jest. I admit i think it does sound quite interesting though, and I love all those pun-names and acronyms, even the super-dorky dark matter ones... i am quite easily amused though.
mr tea, going back to what you were saying about historical figures popping up as characters in Stephenson novels, there's a lot of that in Mason & Dixon - Benjamin Franklin and George Washington for instance... the depcition of GW was particularly funny i seem to remember, he was always getting stoned on hash cakes. Nicola Tesla is in Against the Day a fair bit too.
probably Vineland i'd say, i reckon that's definitely the most accessible - it's not overlong, has a fairly contemporary setting (1960s-80s) etc. It gets a bad rap as his worst book, but i think it's only po-faced academic GR fanboy scholars that say that, i really enjoyed it. Crying of Lot 49 is a good starter one too, if only because it's really short. Quite a lot of songs in Vineland, but not so many in CoL49 as far as i can remember...
I always have this nagging feeling that Cryptonomicon isn't actually very well written, but love it all the same for the number of really awesome bits.Cryptonomicon is awesome, I'd say
Mason & Dixon would probably be up your street. Stylistically it's fairly conventional albeit with cod 18th century prose (which censors the word 'devil' but leaves 'fucking' intact), and it follows some approximation to a linear story with just a bit of messing around between levels of reality. And it's got decent jokes, great characters, nice historical cameos, really inventive fantasy bits... there are still quite a lot of songs, though.Cool, I definitely mean to check out some more Pynchon at some point. What's a good recommendation for someone who more-or-less enjoyed GR but would like to read something a leeetle less hard-going on the logorrhoea, sing-a-longs, crappy limericks, stream-of-consciousness brainwibble &c.?
People who've read more of him than me - everything I've read by him has, to some extent, been centred around societies or sections of societies that are in the process of reconstructing (or constructing) themselves, or at least beyond the bounds of 'normal' society and ripe for the creation of new structures and new myths... is this ongoing throughout his writing, or is it just the stuff I've read?
Haha, well it was a joke and it wasn't; I actually found it really interesting, it's put across in a way that's entirely relevant to the plot(s) and in the end it's the characters and what's happening to them that's important. It doesn't feel like he's lecturing you, he's just unfolding this incredibly detailed, consistent and fleshed-out world for the characters to emerge from and interact with - and it happens to be the real world a couple of hundred years ago. Which makes me think there's probably more imagination involved in using a real-world historical setting like this as a convincing and interesting backdrop to a novel than there is in constructing a fantasy or sci-fi world. And (if you're a bit nerdy, like me) you'll find yourself admiring the sheer thoroughness of his research.