No Future for the GOP?

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
well by all means, illuminate me with your erudition, oh wise & mighty scholar of the law. don't just leave me & everyone else wallowing in the dark pit of ignorance. how, exactly, are the rest of us misguided? why should anyone care about international law? and how is it not (mostly) a by the West, for the West, deal?

I humbly await your corrections.
 

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
fair play. but when you have a free moment, please do. b/c sarcasm aside, those are legitimate questions. I dunno if you'll convince me but I'm certainly willing to give it some consideration.
 

scottdisco

rip this joint please
super clip Vim!

my god, when Bill O'Reilly is making contextualised and sensible, big-picture points against you, you know you're a remedial class goon...
 

blackpixie

Well-known member
Definitely one of the goals of the gop campaigns this year is to create nostalgia for the country that was the dominant super power of the 20 century and they use china for propaganda.

probably one of the most overt examples of propaganda i have seen in a campaign ad.

 

blackpixie

Well-known member

ha thank god for the onion.

although i would have thought in an ad like that they would have included something about china being communist or whatever and tied that in with how u.s. government is secretly communist and what not. Maybe try to convince us that all of this "offshoring" of employment to asia is what our alien of a president is actually trying to do. Once again serving the interest of not just a u.s. big government but any big government. Now that i think about it they probably could have made the ad even worse than it was.

Or maybe it was more subdued because independents are less likely to accept that particular narrative.

And about the oreilly palin video where he makes her look stupid, there obviously isnt one clear concise conservative narrative to this election so what does that mean? Is Bill O'Reilly a "Red Dog" conservative now? Im not gonna lie i have a little nostalgia for O'Reilly... The whole tea party thing is pretty tacky.

I just cant help wonder what will/would happen to all of the people (tea partiers) supporting what is essentially the same economics that Ron Paul supported in 2008. Although that doesnt include his foreign policies so much, as some of them are in line with the democrats u could probably say. For instance he doesnt advocate proliferation of capitalism and democracy with foreign militaristic intervention. But those tea partiers seem to essentially be shooting themselves in the foot with their economics. The idea of a completely free market directly translating into their own individual freedom is a pretty sad thing to watch as i have family that are proponents of this. Kind of reminds me of an adolescent teenager wanting parental emancipation, for something as silly as the enforcement of a midnight curfew.

The Tea Parties Brain - The Atlantic

So you have all that versus the keneysians like paul krugman in the nytimes.

Yet no one in washington seems to be willing to step up and support an economic philosophy that could possibly save the democratic party as we have come to always know it, that is, not necessarily for better imo, but Krugman has been doing a pretty good job of calling them out on that, and it's satisfying to see. But the lack of ambition of the last 2 years on the part of the dems is puzzling nonetheless. A lot of that seems to have come down to a complete mucking of a PR war between the two most popular political spectrums. Im sure it is surprising a lot of people considering how well Obama handled the PR war during the 2008 elections.

The whole election is still just as depressing and confusing as any other one though. Im pretty much voting simply because i wouldnt want something "as bad" as not voting on my conscious. Talk about negative motivation...
 

stevied

Well-known member
Eliot Weinberger in the LRB on the Bush biography.

This is a chronicle of the Bush Era with no colour-coded Terror Alerts; no Freedom Fries; no Halliburton; no Healthy Forests Initiative (which opened up wilderness areas to logging); no Clear Skies Act (which reduced air pollution standards); no New Freedom Initiative (which proposed testing all Americans, beginning with schoolchildren, for mental illness); no pamphlets sold by the National Parks Service explaining that the Grand Canyon was created by the Flood; no research by the National Institutes of Health on whether prayer can cure cancer (‘imperative’, because poor people have limited access to healthcare); no cover-up of the death of football star Pat Tillman by ‘friendly fire’ in Afghanistan; no ‘Total Information Awareness’ from the Information Awareness Office; no Project for the New American Century; no invented heroic rescue of Private Jessica Lynch; no Fox News; no hundreds of millions spent on ‘abstinence education’. It does not deal with the Cheney theory of the ‘unitary executive’ – essentially that neither the Congress nor the courts can tell the president what to do – or Bush’s frequent use of ‘signing statements’ to indicate that he would completely ignore a bill that the Congress had just passed.

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v33/n01/eliot-weinberger/damn-right-i-said
 

crackerjack

Well-known member
Dunno if this is the right place for this (or if there even is one :confused:), but this story has reared its head again.
..

Most interesting aspect is the degree to which the media were scared off pursuing it during the campaign.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
I guess that any credibility he ever had is completely undermined now that he has had to admit that his sums are out by $350bn - surely time to quietly resign or it will be a serious blow to what remains of the GOP.
 

Sectionfive

bandwagon house
Economic competence has never been a requirement as far as I know. ;)
He can always get a job with our lot if he gets the boot.
 
Top