Pope puts stress on gender roles

subvert47

I don't fight, I run away
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7796663.stm
Pope Benedict XVI has said that saving humanity from homosexual or transsexual behaviour is just as important as saving the rainforest from destruction.

He explained that defending God's creation was not limited to saving the environment, but also protecting man from self-destruction.

The pope was delivering his end-of-year address to senior Vatican staff.

His words, later released to the media, emphasised his total rejection of gender theory.

Pope Benedict XVI warned that gender theory blurs the distinction between male and female and could thus lead to the "self-destruction" of the human race.

stupid old nazi :rolleyes:
 

STN

sou'wester
I don't really have anything smart to add (why change the habit of a lifetime) but sod off, Pope! I don't care how much Frank Sinatra likes you.
 

swears

preppy-kei
They had a disscussion about this on Radio 4 this morning. Some barmy catholic woman was claiming that because of "confused gender roles" the west was "dying". I guess this means that not enough white women are having babies. Of course this is exactly what the world and it's rainforests needs, the people with the biggest carbon footprints breeding like rabbits.

They were fudging the gay issue, too, I'd have more respect if they just came out and said: "Look, if you think it's OK to be gay then go and be an anglican or something, we are loony bigots and proud of it."
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
"Look, if you think it's OK to be gay then go and be an anglican or something..."
... unless your peccadillo is pre-teen boys of course in which case why not become a priest?
 

polystyle

Well-known member
As usual, Pope on the wrong side o' history, thought , science.
His flockers too many times on the wrong side of little boys and girls.
Yeah, have a great x - mas time Rome on high.:(
 

empty mirror

remember the jackalope
what strikes me are those homosexuals that are still loyal to the catholic church despite the fact that the church is so explicit in saying that they are not wanted; that they are essentially evil because of their sexuality.

andy warhol, for example, went to (catholic) church every sunday.
i have a (gay) friend that is loyal to the catholic church despite their condemnation of his lifestyle---i can only imagine what hell he was put through going to catholic school, and coming to the realization that his very nature was something that should be destroyed so that he can be accepted by god.

is not the priesthood the one refuge for gay catholic men? and then the pope condemns his servants?

harumph!
 

poetix

we murder to dissect
Ratzinger's a total closet case anyway. Dreadful waste of a keen mind, all its (in his case I believe considerable) intellectual power spent fighting itself. Down, wantons, down!
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Figurehead of 2,000-year-old religious tradition in 'socially conservative' shocka. :rolleyes:

This:

this from a bloke in a frock

reminds me of:

Anglican vicar: "Hur hur, nice dress mate!"

Father Ted: (furious) "Why don't you go and have sex with your wife!"

swears said:
They were fudging the gay issue, too...

hur hur hur...

swears said:
I'd have more respect if they just came out...

...hur hur hur...

*bevis and buttheads*

Happy Christmas, all.
 

petergunn

plywood violin
can this be the recovering catholic thread? working today i did think of my religious childhood, christmas eve mass was such a big deal... i remember being a shepard and i think a magi in the christmas pagent...

i was even an alter boy, served mass for Cardinal Law, the cardinal of boston...

THAT SAID, i mean, i am suprised Dissensus could bother to have a thread on the pope... i mean, seriously, in 2008? i mean, i get it, there is a certain part of the populace that won't let it go, but for the rest of us, can the backwards ass stance of the catholic church on anything be suprising?

it's depressing to think of it in depth... the closet case priests and the frigid nuns... yeeesh... half of them were great (confused) people, half of them were such fucking assholes...
 

nomadthethird

more issues than Time mag
can this be the recovering catholic thread? working today i did think of my religious childhood, christmas eve mass was such a big deal... i remember being a shepard and i think a magi in the christmas pagent...

i was even an alter boy, served mass for Cardinal Law, the cardinal of boston...

THAT SAID, i mean, i am suprised Dissensus could bother to have a thread on the pope... i mean, seriously, in 2008? i mean, i get it, there is a certain part of the populace that won't let it go, but for the rest of us, can the backwards ass stance of the catholic church on anything be suprising?

it's depressing to think of it in depth... the closet case priests and the frigid nuns... yeeesh... half of them were great (confused) people, half of them were such fucking assholes...

Yeah. Apart from having Roman Catholicism to thank for a childhood confused by manipulative, passive aggressive, conflicted, anxiety-ridden, misguidedly prudish, guilt-trip inducing role models, I can't really muster up any disgust for people who still believe that a God who is bigger than the universe, and who created space and time in one breath, spends most of his time pissed off because members of one species of bacterial organism on earth are using the genitals he gave them to feel good without the notarized marriage certificates and unplanned impregnatings, in the meantime recording every idle sexual fantasy that flits through their heads in his giant DVR mind so he'll be able to play them all back in front of everyone on Judgment Day.

They're beneath my contempt.

I mean, imagine what kind of man wants to spend most of the rest of his life listening to people in "confession" (which, of course, focuses on all of those dirty thoughts and every wanton episode of self stimulation you've partaken in recently, rather than, say, every time you committed God's least favorite sin, pride) resolving couples' marital issues (by telling everyone to stay married no matter what, having no personal experience with such matters), making sure knocked up sluts are properly punished for life, and, of course, having unrestricted, unsupervised access to very young boys at regular intervals.
 
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zhao

there are no accidents
what strikes me are those homosexuals that are still loyal to the catholic church despite the fact that the church is so explicit in saying that they are not wanted; that they are essentially evil because of their sexuality.

andy warhol, for example, went to (catholic) church every sunday.
i have a (gay) friend that is loyal to the catholic church despite their condemnation of his lifestyle---i can only imagine what hell he was put through going to catholic school, and coming to the realization that his very nature was something that should be destroyed so that he can be accepted by god.

is not the priesthood the one refuge for gay catholic men? and then the pope condemns his servants?

harumph!

well andy warhol was very much a closet case though. they literally found storage spaces of his that no one, and i mean no one else, knew about.

but yes, i know people like this. amazing.
 

nomadthethird

more issues than Time mag
well andy warhol was very much a closet case though. they literally found storage spaces of his that no one, and i mean no one else, knew about.

but yes, i know people like this. amazing.

Warhol had quasi- (nonsexual) love affairs with women, like Edie Sedgwick and Nico, too, which isn't all that uncommon.

I have a lot of gay "boyfriends", I used to have a "gay husband" whom I hung out with every waking moment.
 
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