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mms

sometimes
http://splinteringboneashes.blogspot.com/

this guy is the only one with the lack of baggage as a music critic and cultural commentator, and the only one without the weight of ideology, with no theories to put on whether it's realness / the nuum / or hauntology, who's actually trying to quietly make sense of it all and succeeding by looking for places where the nuum doesn't work and the right and other ideas and theories do, he's mutating it.
tomorrow we can expect another glimpse from behind the 'net curtains from SR about wonky - which we've already established isn't a genre - being illbient + internet. :(
 
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padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
SR about wonky - which we've already established isn't a genre - being illbient + internet. :(

yeah when I saw I thought I was like oh lord, now we're in for some diatribe about DJ Spooky & Bill Laswell & how Defunkt relates to Hudson Mohawke. perhaps it's just time to say f**k it & toss in the towel.
 

Chris

fractured oscillations
http://splinteringboneashes.blogspot.com/

this guy is the only one with the lack of baggage as a music critic and cultural commentator, and the only one without the weight of ideology, with no theories to put on whether it's realness / the nuum / or hauntology, who's actually trying to quietly make sense of it all and succeeding by looking for places where the nuum doesn't work and the right and other ideas and theories do, he's mutating it.
tomorrow we can expect another glimpse from behind the 'net curtains from SR about wonky - which we've already established isn't a genre - being illbient + internet. :(

yeah, really interesting (and admirably inventive) take there from Alex, as always.
 

vimothy

yurp
yeah, really interesting (and admirably inventive) take there from Alex, as always.

I thought Gek's piece on the HCC was horribly lazy and circular. Why is music so much more boring nowadays? Oh yeah, it's because of the inherent contradiction at the heart of the libidinal matrix of late capitalism -- obv. But it did give me an idea for a meta-dissensus drinking game. Every time you hear the phrase "seamless dyschronia of capitalist-realist ideology" (or whatever), you do two fingers of rum.
 

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
Oh yeah, it's because of the inherent contradiction at the heart of the libidinal matrix of late capitalism --

yeah I kind of glanced askance at this as well. not at the idea of creativity as a scarce resource which can be tapped out, which is at least interesting (in a very abstract sense) if nothing else. more at this rather arbitrary stance that the 90s were some kind of final Golden Age of creativity. quite a convenient stance to take isn't it if you're arguing that nothing done since measures up. why not this past decade? or the next? of course picking the 90s happens to coincide with the prime of most of the people making the argument (SR & kpunk certainly, dunno about Gek). actually quite a lot of this just strikes me as parents getting cranky about not getting the kids & their crazy music, dressed up with a bunch of fancy words & some vague tosh about late capitalism. which ppl go on & on about & yet here we are & it keeps staggering on despite itself.

I mean, I agree with them that jungle towers over anything that's come since but not cause the 90s were some mythical apex of the last 150 yrs of fossil fueled creative thought. my own theory is that it was more a perfect storm of chemistry, technology, geography, politics & a bunch of other stuff & the reason that most stuff pales in comparison is that lightning doesn't strike twice. it's a pretty vague theory tbf.
 

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
yeah I kind of glanced askance at this as well. not at the idea of creativity as a scarce resource which can be tapped out, which is at least interesting (in a very abstract sense) if nothing else.

I should mention though that the line about how "techno could only absorb the breakbeat once" was a good one.
 

Tentative Andy

I'm in the Meal Deal
This is the first time I've seen Gek's blog actually , cheers to swears and mms for links. Think he makes some very interesting points, but can't help wanting to nominate his overall tone for inclusion in the pretentious crap thread, very laboured and with a sort of blogland-preening thing going on.
/sarkiness - for now...
 

whatever

Well-known member
the whole 'speed at which mutation happens is slower than jungle was' is just another stupid horrible arbitrary metaphysics. who said that 'speed of mutation' is the criterion by which individual tracks or a community or a genre are to be judged? answer: LAME bloggers who **need** mutation , since without it they have nothing else to write aobut lol

NEXT

:sticks out tongue at lame-o internet **theorists** haha:
 

whatever

Well-known member
same for the 'depletion of resources' thing, 'it's all headed to entropy just like culture' is, a la kpunk's obnoxious thin gruel of a commentary ... which SR seems to agree with ... if this is theory then my poor dears , what a sad boring display of theory you are ... i mean, really ! hahahahaha 'speculative realism' , the philosophical equivalent of Paul Coelho ... cheese for european touristic summer beaches ...

As I said before, it all adds up to: spoiled brats (read: 'bloggers' & UK music 'critics' ) in the age of capitalism: I want MORE STUFF, and I want it NOW dammit, .. more more more goes the complaint , to happen FASTER and FASTER;, ... and if it happens to non-white people, then even BETTER, cos then I can say in my Fact magazine interviews (two or three times) that I listen to "black street music" . TRUE STORY . lol

i find it funny how teh bloggers exhibit perfectly the capitalist-driven desire they rail against - a perfect symmetry of meaningless shite if you ask me: capitalist market, meet your offspring: music bloggers complaining that music doesn't change fast enough - b/c if it changed faster then a blogger could lecture us about its CULTURAL RELEVANCE , even tho there's more music more mutation more releases in any given genre than a person cld listen to in ten years ... :D
 
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hamarplazt

100% No Soul Guaranteed
As I said before, it all adds up to: spoiled brats (read: 'bloggers' & UK music 'critics' ) in the age of capitalism: I want MORE STUFF, and I want it NOW dammit, .. more more more goes the complaint , to happen FASTER and FASTER;,
Well, yes, they're spoiled, but why are they spoiled? Isn't this actually acknowledging that there indeed was a greater amount of incredible stuff coming out in the golden age of rave, at a much faster speed? Og course, this is not the same as to say that the current stuff isn't great, just that theres less of it and that it's moving slower.
 

mms

sometimes
again too most of the people making musi now were 8 or 9 when jungle was about, so they're partly being criticised for not being born it would seem to me.
 

swears

preppy-kei
again too most of the people making musi now were 8 or 9 when jungle was about, so they're partly being criticised for not being born it would seem to me.

Yeah, jungle to me was not the massive future-shock rush that it would have been to someone ten years older at the time. Jungle and drum n bass to me were genres that had their own radio shows, were all over adverts, all over pop songs, and generally part of the sonic fabric of pop culture by the time I was about 14.
 

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
who said that 'speed of mutation' is the criterion by which individual tracks or a community or a genre are to be judged?

no one, actually, at least not in the way you mean.

i find it funny how teh bloggers exhibit perfectly the capitalist-driven desire they rail against - a perfect symmetry of meaningless shite if you ask me: capitalist market, meet your offspring: music bloggers complaining that music doesn't change fast enough - b/c if it changed faster then a blogger could lecture us about its CULTURAL RELEVANCE , even tho there's more music more mutation more releases in any given genre than a person cld listen to in ten years ... :D

oh what a shock music is a product & people who write about are advertisers & we're all consumers consuming products blah blah blah. truly you're shattering paradigms left & right with your stinging wit.

anyway please enlighten us with some of your internet anti-theories. I imagine you think you're funny but really, like most people attempt it, your belabored attempts at off-the-cuff irreverance are x1000 more tedious than the dryest internet theorizing.
 
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