Is Humanity Dooomed?

zhao

there are no accidents
And yet here we are.

and there the vikings were, living happily on greenland seemingly successfully after hundreds of years, not taking their problems seriously, and not knowing that soon they would all freeze and starve to death.
 

zhao

there are no accidents
With respect, the question is, is humanity doomed, not are the vikings doomed.

with respect, the fate of different ethnic groups are much more connected today than they were before.

with respect, how past peoples have met their doom has everything to do with humanity in 2009: the same problems, the same choices to ignore or solve them.
 

vimothy

yurp
Let me put it another way: civilisations have collapsed before, but humanity survived. Two assumptions then are necessary to say that humanity is doomed. The first assumption is that "our civilisation", meaning the inter-linked global state system, is doomed. The second assumption is that the collapse of this system will destroy humanity.

Ultimately, if it happens, I believe that it will be because of ruptures in the intertemporal fabric of the hardcore continuum, caused by Simon Reynold's article about wonky and ketamine.
 

zhao

there are no accidents
Don't forget the dinosaurs.

except they didn't cause soil erosion through over farming, and deplete marine life from over fishing, polute the atmosphere with wanton industry, etc., and causing their own destruction through short sighted practices did they?

did you recently hit your head craner? your posts lately have been really stupid.

to save time, allow me to reply for you:

we don't know that do we?
 
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zhao

there are no accidents
Let me put it another way: civilisations have collapsed before, but humanity survived. Two assumptions then are necessary to say that humanity is doomed. The first assumption is that "our civilisation", meaning the inter-linked global state system, is doomed. The second assumption is that the collapse of this system will destroy humanity.

the fate of different ethnic groups are much more connected today than they were before.

also, the level of destruction is unprecedented: 80% of all large fish in the ocean gone. hockey stick graphs of temperature rise. etc. etc. etc. etc.

thus the stakes are higher than they were before: eco collapse will not be regional like before, and catastrophe will affect humanity globally.
 
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poetix

we murder to dissect
I blame the forgetting of Being. Also: phonologophallocentrism, obscure and reactive subjectivities, the reduction of the Face of the Other to a mere sense datum, biopower, sex negativity, vampiric capital, arborescent conceptual schematisation, grand narratives, the Spectacle and the blocking of flows.

If we could just get rid of all those things, our immortality would be assured - we'd probably just, like, sublime into beings of pure orgone energy or something like that.
 

zhao

there are no accidents
I blame the forgetting of Being. Also: phonologophallocentrism, obscure and reactive subjectivities, the reduction of the Face of the Other to a mere sense datum, biopower, sex negativity, vampiric capital, arborescent conceptual schematisation, grand narratives, the Spectacle and the blocking of flows.

you forgot pretentiousness.
 

zhao

there are no accidents
i've never heard sublime used as a verb before... sounds ok but wonder how sound it is.
 

poetix

we murder to dissect
A self-appointed vanguard, no less. Only such a vanguard can accomplish the crystallisation of the pre-tensor into a present-tensor, a scintillating vector of pre-tension.
 

josef k.

Dangerous Mystagogue
Okay, so....

1) Is Western Civilization doomed?

2) Will humanity survive the collapse of Western Civilization?

3) If so, how...
 

zhao

there are no accidents
disagree with distinction between "western" and... eastern? civilization because i believe the separation of the 2 are exaggerated or completely fictional.

i would say civilization as we know it, this particular form of social organization, is doomed. but whether it will kill us all no one knows.
 

john eden

male pale and stale
Okay, so....

1) Is Western Civilization doomed?

Yes

2) Will humanity survive the collapse of Western Civilization?

Yes

3) If so, how...

by coming up with something else
 
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