Convince me why I should like The Beatles
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slackk
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There is no definitive tune it is functionality. Thirdform seems to know more than me, I think he is younger (?) and has delved, whereas I remember it only through a chemical lens. I owned loads of the vinyl too but can only remember the labels really- nukleus was the big one, tidy trax, dinky for the more scouse/dutch light heartedness.
slackk
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This is the era that I'm on about, when I was 16/17 this was what we were all into in Liverpool. Very vague memories of all this being played so fast in the Sunrise or the 05
I am not espousing it's worth, I'm too clouded with nostalgia on this stuff and I don't even think most of it is any good. But it was an era of sorts.
I am not espousing it's worth, I'm too clouded with nostalgia on this stuff and I don't even think most of it is any good. But it was an era of sorts.
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Woebot
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that great alan partridge line. what's your favourite beatles album? the red one or the blue one?
i don't really know too much about it, my specialty is post-92 hardcore techno and industrial techno. basically the european end of the continuum and its evolution.
"Well it's not all from London I know, but like many a scene, London has often been a processing point for what's being generated elsewhere. In this case, very much courtesy of Frankfurt, Detroit, Rotterdam, New York and of course the UK itself. This is a fairly close recreation of the regular sets I played at VFM, Dead By Dawn, Eurobeat 2000, Institute Of Goa, Helter Skelter and various squat parties (Spiral Tribe, Bedlam) in and around London. Hard banging techno leading up to some of the decent first instances of gabba. It's at a point where things were quickly splintering off from the highly successful UK Rave Hardcore sound of 92 and reconnecting with a harder updated version of what had previously been coming out of Detroit, Brooklyn, Belgium and Holland around 89/90/91. Looking back, though it seemed such a very separate sound from breakbeat hardcore, with the distance of time they were both very much shades of the same rave. Ah the memories…."
stuff like re-load records, position chrome, fischkopf, basically all this outsider post-rave music closer to avantgarde metal and full of sneering moody attitude to the shortcomings of the club scene. more Boredoms than squarepusher. not toilet humour, just pure reconstruction.
not IDM but an intensification of hardcores mania into alternative universes. check out E. D. Cologne/Patrick Catanni.
A great label for this stuff is Cavage records out of France. But nah hard house is too one dimensional for me. that works with techno where there's a hypnotic feel but hard house tries to be minimalistic through a linear format - build, breakdown, crescendo, subtraction. whereas with techno its the bringing in and out of elements in a pulsating and hypnotic way, which taps into that lineage of funk as Africanised technology that i talk about. Hard house is too moroder disco for me, you can't really get hooked into the rhythm, it's more about the unending crescendo. which sounds interesting but is actually really quite boring.
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A great label for this stuff is Cavage records out of France. But nah hard house is too one dimensional for me. that works with techno where there's a hypnotic feel but hard house tries to be minimalistic through a linear format - build, breakdown, crescendo, subtraction. whereas with techno its the bringing in and out of elements in a pulsating and hypnotic way, which taps into that lineage of funk as Africanised technology that i talk about. Hard house is too moroder disco for me, you can't really get hooked into the rhythm, it's more about the unending crescendo. which sounds interesting but is actually really quite boring.
Cavage
Experimental broken beat label from France with a large variety of artists on each release. Now Defunct. The label also released a 360 pages book about the label's basement, the underground abandoned quarries, the so called catacombs, of the city of Paris.
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slackk
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it was music for chemicals but also allowed a modicum of cheese amid the supposed brutality. worked quite well when we were kids but that's it, we were children on drugs. interesting you say moroder disco as obviously very gay club led, and hard house obv kicked off in the likes of trade before ending up working class northerner music
all very sterile really though. the brutal russian hard bass end point is an interesting footnote i guess
all very sterile really though. the brutal russian hard bass end point is an interesting footnote i guess
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slackk
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the blue album is 100% the best beatles album, you have to give alan that much
Corpsey
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I was listening to this yesterday - I love how it drifts down into the harmonic home key at the start.
I could consult Revolution in the Head to find out what they did there exactly but I can't be bothered right now. Sorry.
This guy went to my secondary school, the music room was named after him.
This program AFAIR has some cringeworthy moments but it's interesting learning about how they were innovating harmonically.
yeah, definitely. the whole moroder to hi nrg lineage looms large in the gay clubbing scene with that pinging off-beat bassline and that kick to the snare to the kick to the snare/clap metronomic rhythm. i like it in certain styles, new order and 80s stuff, some early belgian techno, but by 96-97 i'd just much rather listen too something more shuffly, even if played at +8.
From what old London heads tell me trade initially started off as a hardcore club for gay blokes, we're talking belgian brutalism with proto-jungle darker UK stuff, think chaotic chemistry drum trip, generator narcomaniac etc, right to german gear like 100% acidiferous and c-tank - walk on base.
then tony de vit came in 93 and started to take it in a trancier and eurohouse direction, from which hard house was born. But obviously being a fairly harder music orientated club he still had to cater to the sensibilities of daz saund and trevor rockcliff who came before him (the original residents who became big techno djs in Europe.) There was also MRS Wood and Smokin Jo, but no idea what happened to them. I think Smokin Jo went in a more traditional house direction eventually.
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some of that continentally minded london audience then gravitated to a lot of hard acid and the beginnings of gabba/speedcore, which of course loftgroover himself championed up north.
here's a pirate radio set from '94
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qz6uroo5aqo7go2/DJ Traffik Energy FM 11 August 1994.mp3?dl=0
here's a pirate radio set from '94
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qz6uroo5aqo7go2/DJ Traffik Energy FM 11 August 1994.mp3?dl=0
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He also says he prefers Wings. "They're only the band The Beatles could've been."
I adore "Synth & Strings", it is so over-the-top and camp and joyous. I went to see Scooter a few years ago and the warm-up DJ played it at at least +20 and it sound so ecstatic and jubilant, incredible scenes.
There's some good Trade Memories mixes knocking about on slsk, I wish I had been old enough to go at its peak.
There's some good Trade Memories mixes knocking about on slsk, I wish I had been old enough to go at its peak.