the last 'band' you were 'into' before you renounced indie

don't tell me you're still an indie kid


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catalog

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Well, yes. You're right.

'Safe' hip hop like Wu tang or Eric b and stuff.

James Brown.

I think they have to have a deal with 1 xtra so they can't play anything too contemporary maybe?

But before this they hardly ever played any black music at all
 

boxedjoy

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I mean I don't expect 6Music to start playing Cardi B and Stormzy but I also find it depressing that you knew exactly what I meant by the question because the answer is so obvious
 

boxedjoy

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when Sade finally make their comeback I wonder what, if any, station will play them. It won't be 1Xtra or Radio One, and I doubt it will be 6Music, maybe Radio 2 but I suppose it depends how they sound on return
 

catalog

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Mary Anne hobbs has been doing a big revisit to dubstep and it all sounds pretty good tbh. She played some new loefah the other day and even that was ok
 

john eden

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There are some segregated shows like Craig Charles’ funk one on Saturday evenings. He’s not doing free jazz workouts obvs but does play great stuff most people including me don’t know.
 

boxedjoy

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I've never listened to Craig Charles' show or seen him DJ despite hearing how good it's meant to be. I'm suspicious that the BBC's figurehead for this stuff just happens to be an actor, already-famous independent of this. I know you can be good at a job while having a passion in a different field but there's something about it that makes me cautious.
 

thirdform

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i wrote this about the bbc last year

ngl, if Boris decriminalised the non-payment of tv licenses and the bbc collapsed as a result as everyone refused to pay them, he would have done more for the class war than Sarkar or Owen Jones. about time those fascist-adjacent dickheads went.

and my mate responded with something along the lines of the news arm of the bbc can't be conflated with its arts and culture sections and how they have watched life changing things on there.

Sums up Britain in a nutshell, a nation of reluctant conflict avoidant personalities.
 
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boxedjoy

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the thing with the BBC is that to justify its cost to every individual who pays for it, it has to be all things to everyone at once. This is impossible as it would require to be both sides of the same coin simultaneously. I think their news coverage is abhorrent, they've fuelled the culture wars with ridiculous actions like seeing transgender rights as a "debate" and giving airtime to flat earthers. But I would hate to see the arts/entertainment/culture part disappear. Because without it I think what you would see is a race to the bottom. Have you seen the nonsense on Channel 5 lately? I think it's great that the BBC perseveres with niche content that serves people otherwise neglected by mainstream entertainment. Something like Only Connect or those slow documentaries on BBC4 wouldn't be getting produced if it wasn't for the license fee because they're not commercially viable. I know the counter-argument would be "well, don't make things that aren't commercially viable and that becomes value for money" but I think we would lose something important if we homogenised culture by scrapping this niche content.
 

thirdform

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tbf i don't have a problem with a race to the bottom. It's what Thatcher wanted anyway, see the sensational tabloid columnist Hillary in Jonathan Coe's What a Carve Up novel. Give smelly bacon eating Brits what they want and force them to revolt as what they wanted was not satisfactory. It's the only way.
 

thirdform

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It's the height of British arrogance to imagine that the rest of the world are missing out by not having the BBC.
 

boxedjoy

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of course the BBC isn't perfect and there's great TV made all over the world but the variety of choice on offer is an argument for it. I doubt ITV et al would have aired a subtitled Danish drama ever but the original The Killing is great and I would never have seen it without it being put on iPlayer.

I don't actually like a lot of "highbrow" TV, I loved Footballers Wives and Bad Girls and Sunset Beach, I thought Breaking Bad was tedious when I tried with it and The Sopranos just seems like a really dull show about a man who has therapy. But if I was solely at the behest of cheap programmes made for ITV Be and ~artful dramas~ on Netflix I would be completely under-served by the format.
 
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