linebaugh

Well-known member
they have some of the best music literally made on their literal doorstep and they would rather
listen to shit like my chemical romance. How can you respect people like that?
Again, were talking about children. Not saying its something to be respected
 

linebaugh

Well-known member
@other_life how old are you? What was popular with the kids in the midwest? In inner city schools in dallas texas you either liked my chemical romance or lil wayne.
 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
I mean, you'd get a fucking bollocking for listening to NWA or Eminem or even 50cent on the speakers, but that was because of the swears. Such uncouth language is unwelcome in a muslim household, until you learn to, for instance, call your cousin the smelliest excrement of the 7 ancestors of his donkey father. So yeah, keep the swears and the angry screaming guitars in the headphones.

My mum loves Tina Turner despite knowing nothing about western music whatsoever. Beauty must be taught to Amrikan children.
 

linebaugh

Well-known member
I remember riding the bus and exchanging metallica songs for lil wayne songs with other kids. I secretly thought this song had a really cool beat but had too much rockist pride to admit it


 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
you wouldn't be called Ola or Farzid or Winston or Jordan at my school and be into metal. You would be called like George or William. Even your tash's and gabbie's and Steph's would be into funky house, garage, that sort of thing with the more 4da ladies end of hip hop. and of course they all loved Brandy and Missy.
 

other_life

bioconfused
@other_life how old are you? What was popular with the kids in the midwest? In inner city schools in dallas texas you either liked my chemical romance or lil wayne.

same age bracket same general region (most of my life), same kind of 'scooped' musical landscape with kids, people liked much worse than mcr and lil wayne but also both seem 'representative' of that era. made shoegaze and 'albums' era warp mistranslate as cooler + more important than they actually were; in the bay skate rates still liked hyphy and screw music and were early OF adopters but a) didn't have the context to appreciate that until later b) same kids also listened to guitar music and had awful taste in same. i think our specific demographic loves jungle but can't relate to it as a popular music + has never been part of any kind of 'massive' [ie, it's always being mediated by idm + soundtrack music and conceived of as an escape from the cul de sac of 'indie vs. pop']
 

malelesbian

Femboyism IS feminism.
Most confusing thread on this site.
No one has the right to call me an obscurantist ever again.
The thread is supposed to be about indie rock. I see no indie rock in any post in the whole thread.
Previously, I was harrassed for posting indie rock. But hey, thirdform seemed to like it!
If you don't like TV on the Radio, you have no right to ever criticize my taste in music, or probably anything at all.


TV on the Radio were the Bad Brains of the 2000s.
 

DannyL

Wild Horses
just ask @luka - noone in London has heard a single smiths song before the Hertfordshire, Oxford, Cambridge massif forced it down our throats. The legal stations have never carried any relevance in london, even noone listened to london turkish radio on 1584 AM because it was shit. We opted for bizim on 104.2
100% correct. I never heard indie before I started listening to John Peel which I only did 'cos of reading NME, because they put Def Jam on the cover.
 

daddek

Well-known member
i think third might have an Animus against a specific, very limited, euro-traditional harmonic language that sonics/rhythm/finesse/daring can only do so much for.

prerhaps indie's impossible to get into unless you can accept the structures of pre mid 20thC anglo/british isles folk song, or at least the derived appalachian song form. the genre seems like a studio superstructure built over those foundations, like it's defined by absence of swing, blues or jazz elements.
 

DannyL

Wild Horses
He said no such thing, he was talking about the class stratified radio and mainstream musical context, you daft hamburger fool. and I think you have a bizarre idea of growing up in essex. I mean you would go into london to the mixed soul/rare groove clubs where there would def be black people. plus he himself is mixed race. Why are you being like gus now and trying to disavow the racism and lack of elegance of American
teens? This isn't some provincial village in Wales like craner, its right on the outskirts of London.
My point was that black music - particularly the more obscure stuff was anti-hegmonic in and of itself because it didn't dominate the airwaves. This is separate from the aesthetics which with a lot of soul was pretty bougie and upwardly mobile. It had a urban black listenership in London (as did reggae) and crossed over to a lot of white people, following black cool as white people tend to do.
 

DannyL

Wild Horses
This isn't to say that Luther Vandross for example never had a chart hit. But more to say that you wouldn't ever hear a two hour soul show on "mainstream" radio and that's one reason pirate radio took off, playing music that wasn't easy to hear.
 
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