arty experimental shit:

[shakahislop]

Annea Lockwood: Piano Transplants - Piano Burning, Piano Garden & Piano Drowning

ISSUE presents a free online program of renowned composer Annea Lockwood’s iconic Piano Transplants works: Piano Burning (1968), Piano Garden (1969-70), and Piano Drowning (1972). This streamed event features expansive documentation from three presented iterations of each piece.

issueprojectroom.org

 

[woops]

Is this the same woman who wanted to chuck a piano of the top of the trellick

 

[luka]

i think its the new zealander who made a boring tape recording of a river

 

[luka]

or maybe it's one of those women who tapped bits of glass, i cant remember. there's only about 3 types of experimental music.

 

[Version]

or maybe it's one of those women who tapped bits of glass, i cant remember. there's only about 3 types of experimental music.

she did do an album where she taps ( and scrapes! ) bits of glass - it's called "world of glass"

 

[luka]

and i was right about the boring recording of a river too. i looked her up to make sure. i think i've probably downloaded both albums in the past.

 

[Version]

prepared pianos, field recordings, and tapping glass - she's achieved the hat trick of arty experimental shit

 

[sus]

Call me when all this supposed "experimental" artists are actually making discoveries that can be used by future artists, instead of just trying dumb shit and learning nothing

 

[sus]

If your schtick is generating weird new sounds & textures & techniques that other people can replicate/sample, I think that's kinda cool, I mean, it'll obviously be of very limited interest, artists will use you as research material more or less, but it's a valid part of the pipeline

It's never that though is it? It never has the humility to place itself in a creative pipeline it always wants to be "Challenging" it always needs 2 pages of single-spaced exegesis about how Conceptual it is and all the Concepts it's activating, which is really just associative word soup poetry, and it's never able to articulate what useful things it discovered

"pleased to present a free program by" yeah that's because "interacting with"/experiencing this piece of "art" involves clicking around to a couple frames in the piece with fire, water, garden etc, experiencing 15 seconds then moving on. Months of work for 2.5 hours for that, why

 

[william kent]

Think we just got a new contender for Most Ruinous White Person on Dissensus.

 

[yyaldrin]

@Leo did you ever stand on new york's human carpet? https://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/14/fashion/14carpet.html

 

[sus]

In 1968, Lockwood originally set fire to an irreparable, upright piano on the banks of the River Thames in London. It was the first of her Piano Transplants, reconfiguring people’s relationship to one of the most iconic western instruments of our age.

Did it really reconfigure anyone's relationship to the piano? No of course not. Do they even say how it could reconfigure it, in what way?

Then there's pages of biographies about various "bold" artists and curators who were involved in this "daring" project of setting a piano on fire, and all the distinguished awards and residencies and grants these artists have won that prove how Bold and Daring and Innovative they are

 

[woops]

let 'em have it @suspended

 

[Leo]

@Leo did you ever stand on new york's human carpet? https://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/14/fashion/14carpet.html

sadly, no.

 

[shakahislop]

If your schtick is generating weird new sounds & textures & techniques that other people can replicate/sample, I think that's kinda cool, I mean, it'll obviously be of very limited interest, artists will use you as research material more or less, but it's a valid part of the pipeline

It's never that though is it? It never has the humility to place itself in a creative pipeline it always wants to be "Challenging" it always needs 2 pages of single-spaced exegesis about how Conceptual it is and all the Concepts it's activating, which is really just associative word soup poetry, and it's never able to articulate what useful things it discovered

"pleased to present a free program by" yeah that's because "interacting with"/experiencing this piece of "art" involves clicking around to a couple frames in the piece with fire, water, garden etc, experiencing 15 seconds then moving on. Months of work for 2.5 hours for that, why

that is exactly how i experienced it as well. i thought it would probably be quite fun to be involved in making it. and the bit where she's playing the piano while its a bit on fire was good.

 

[shakahislop]

 

[woops]

weird music is often much more fun to make than to listen to

 

[luka]

i generally take this rhetorical position too, that the experimental is sealed off from the wider movements of culture and is sterile but in practice i like all that mvuent music made by alcoholic Hungarians and state-funded communist Frenchmen in huge academic laboratories

 

[woops]

i generally take this rhetorical position too, that the experimental is sealed off from the wider movements of culture and is sterile but in practice i like all that mvuent music made by alcoholic Hungarians and state-funded communist Frenchmen in huge academic laboratories

massive difference between that stuff and setting a piano on fire

 

[luka]

that's true, but it still counts as experimental to me