luka
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bit you can do that and keep an ideal of photorealism visually. i thought he means cartoons are better than photos?
Where is the avant-garde?
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bit you can do that and keep an ideal of photorealism visually. i thought he means cartoons are better than photos?
forclosure
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it's not that cartoons are better it's there's more of a sense of imagination and it tends to age better than things that strife for realism do
don't even have to go back super far Metal gear solid 1 looks like ass in comparison to castlevania symphony of the night
don't even have to go back super far Metal gear solid 1 looks like ass in comparison to castlevania symphony of the night
forclosure
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where is it? who knows probably in the mind of some young black genderfucked creative outthere whose struggling to make rent
This is true. This is why Nintendo games age better than most. Super Mario Sunshine still looks great, for example.
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i take issue with the where cause it's giving off this sense like it can still be found in one particular spot or thing that's done now and i've heard enough about the death of monoculture the avant garde is probably happening right this second in places and ways that alot of people on here will definitly not recognize and write off as "student music"
forclosure
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they age better but Nintendo are conservative in their visual design definitly more so now than in the past
they want to be the Disney of video games
mvuent
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its fucking MEMES like i was saying! maybe liminal spaces wasn't the best example. i was mainly thinking more the stuff that has to do with morphology / bending recorded reality. similar to what barty was talking about in the harlquinn. identity and image as highly malleable, literally and figuratively. that's the successor to old modernist stuff, the only difference is i don't know of many people now who realize its not just purely a joke.
re: avant garde today ofc
re: avant garde today ofc
luka
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'internet music' is the dismissive term i favour nowadays
forclosure
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sorry if that sounds glib but honestly am i wrong? the worlds gotten weird and pulled inside in ways that even the most constantly on the pulse Adam Curtis types couldn't predict
luka
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im not letting barty have that one. he got it off me and hes not here to say otherwise anyway!
mvuent
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which IS a meme
forclosure
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please abandon this train of thought now it's not fucking VR Porn
luka
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hard to say i guess. no need to assume it will come from the west at all now the whole world is joined together
forclosure
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it's been a meme for so long there's a fucking Avenue Q song about it
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and it's definitly not going to come from milquetoast rich white youts who have a lockdown on the spaces to make art be it avant-garde or not
Isn't that how it's always been? It's not as though the entire world was fixated on Joyce when he published Ulysses. People were doing stuff all over the place and Bely had written Petersburg years before. It's obviously intensified and become even more fragmented now, but we're looking back as though the avant -garde was the handful of artists who ended up being canonised and nothing was happening outside of that select group.