Mark Fell, Rian Treanor, Gabor Lazar

[luka]

it would be very easy just to laugh at Kubrick as gauche and clumsy and crude. that's how Craner views him. he thinks he's simply a bad artist. and he may well be, im very open to that argument, but i think that badness, if that's what it is, produces very interesting effects

 

[luka]

i mean, craner, bless him, will watch the most egregious rubbish so long as it features a big bosomed dark eyelashed italian actress, but he woulnd't touch Kubrick with a bargepole.

 

[Corpsey]

It's too coldly intellectual for him – like Lord of the Rings.

 

[luka]

Craner is basically hostile to anything intellectual. Barty is the same. They consider themselves far too clever to have to perform any feats of intellectual athleticism.

 

[luka]

Made in Chelsea. Speed Garage. Comic Books. Italian Nunsploitation. New Labour. Mariah Carey. that's what they like.

 

[version]

Craner's reading The Western Canon though.

 

[luka]

it would be very easy just to laugh at Kubrick as gauche and clumsy and crude. that's how Craner views him. he thinks he's simply a bad artist. and he may well be, im very open to that argument, but i think that badness, if that's what it is, produces very interesting effects

the deliberateness of the sets, the heavy handed symmetries and so on. it's a kind of anti-naturalism

 

[luka]

Craner's reading The Western Canon though.

he's doing that as a wry performance art piece

 

[version]

Craner is basically hostile to anything intellectual. Barty is the same. They consider themselves far too clever to have to perform any feats of intellectual athleticism.

 

[IdleRich]

I think of the original The Wicker Man in those terms. It's basically an extended episode of Fawlty Towers where Basil's sacrificed at the end.

I think the ridiculousness is why it's scary isn't it? A fairly common theme I think in which the baddies are foolish, idiotic etc but there is suddenly this realisation they can put you in a big wooden cage (in this example) and set fire to you even so.

 

[Corpsey]

Glad this threads been set back on course

 

[luka]

I think the ridiculousness is why it's scary isn't it? A fairly common theme I think in which the baddies are foolish, idiotic etc but there is suddenly this realisation they can put you in a big wooden cage (in this example) and set fire to you even so.

it plays into the urbanites (my) fear of rural people. sullen, suspicious, stupid, darkly malevolent and basically still pagan

 

[luka]

deliverance does this too

 

[Corpsey]

I'd actually have classified you as one of the rural maniacs, dancing around a maypole with your knob out reciting PIers Ploughman

 

[luka]

Rich, give us your pithily expressed, startlingly perceptive and original Kubrick opinion.

 

[luka]

I'd actually have classified you as one of the rural maniacs, dancing around a maypole with your knob out reciting PIers Ploughman

i forgot i was pretending to read that one summer

 

[Corpsey]

I'm sure I've seen a photo of you somewhere dressed up as a Druid in the woods

 

[luka]

I'm sure I've seen a photo of you somewhere dressed up as a Druid in the woods

 

[version]

I'm sure I've seen a photo of you somewhere dressed up as a Druid in the woods

 

[version]

I think the ridiculousness is why it's scary isn't it? A fairly common theme I think in which the baddies are foolish, idiotic etc but there is suddenly this realisation they can put you in a big wooden cage (in this example) and set fire to you even so.

It's not the islanders I find funny. It's him. You're watching a man being driven spare. It's like winding up the teacher in school.