Election 2020

[WashYourHands]

Friday.

 

[luka]

I see.

 

[Mr. Tea]

It’s fucking capitalism. It’s been global for more than a few centuries. Why dance around the issue? Just nail the tail to the donkey. Techno-capitalism, monopoly capitalism, mixed economies, but most of all........c-c-c-c-cocaine capitalism.

Pick a state and you could tweak your language variants. China? Totalitarian capitalism. North Korea? Fuck knows. Australia? Alcoholic capitalism. UK? Alcohol and drugs capitalism. Denmark? Fit birds who pay more income tax capitalism. Mexico? Narco capitalism. Canadia? Cold wilderness capitalism. Italy? Nice motors capitalism.

"North Korea? Fuck knows" might be the most insightful piece of geopolitical commentary I've ever read here.

(Sorry @craner)

 

[luka]

what was most intriguing and most surprising about Brexit and Trump was that they represented setbacks to, and the democratic registering of dissent towards what Stan takes to be inevitable, the process of globalisation, larger and larger blocs till we are all united under one world government and the hunger games begin.

Big blocs form and big blocs break up throughout history. There's plenty of examples of huge empires fragmenting from Rome to the Ottomans to the USSR.

 

[version]

North Korea? Fuck knows.

Juche.

 

[Mr. Tea]

I think if one place on earth can be called non-capitalistic, it's probably North Korea.

 

[WashYourHands]

A ripe market for human organs though.

 

[Mr. Tea]

Positively bustling, I'm sure.

 

[Mr. Tea]

Juche.

Bless you.

 

[constant escape]

what was most intriguing and most surprising about Brexit and Trump was that they represented setbacks to, and the democratic registering of dissent towards what Stan takes to be inevitable, the process of globalisation, larger and larger blocs till we are all united under one world government and the hunger games begin.

Big blocs form and big blocs break up throughout history. There's plenty of examples of huge empires fragmenting from Rome to the Ottomans to the USSR.

Yeah perhaps a defining aspect to the ideological globalism I have in mind is that it tends away from nationalism, and is thus more or less anti-nationalist.

"Postnationalism" could work as a descriptor, if or when we reach the point when virtually all nationalist activity is at the fringes, associated with terrorism, de facto outlawed.

 

[constant escape]

Terrorism being officially outlawed, and nationalism being de facto tethered to it, cast down to rock bottom.

 

[Leo]

impeachment conviction, even post-presidential, would mean trump is banned from ever running for any office. no wonder the Dems/deep state allowed all the protesters into the capitol.

 

[luka]

impeachment conviction, even post-presidential, would mean trump is banned from ever running for any office. no wonder the Dems/deep state allowed all the protesters into the capitol.

Don't want to get ahead of ourselves but that's the idea yes

 

[version]

Terrorism being officially outlawed, and nationalism being de facto tethered to it, cast down to rock bottom.

Some people think we're at the start of "The War on Terror" 2.0 and we're essentially going to see it turn inward.

 

[constant escape]

Some people think we're at the start of "The War on Terror" 2.0 and we're essentially going to see it turn inward.

What do you mean?

 

[luka]

Some people think we're at the start of "The War on Terror" 2.0 and we're essentially going to see it turn inward.

That's what I meant about a low camp strategy of tension.

 

[luka]

A kind of couch potato Taliban. Why? To what end? Some kind of low camp strategy of tension?

 

[constant escape]

I mean I'm still doing the usual here, speculating with facts but largely beyond factuality. If we had all the facts we need, we wouldn't need to go beyond factuality, no? The part of knowledge that is limited to factuality is science, while the part that is beyond factuality is gnosis.

 

[constant escape]

Low camp strategy of tension?

 

[luka]

low camp in British English​

NOUN
an unsophisticated form of camp

A strategy of tension (Italian: strategia della tensione) is a policy wherein violent struggle is encouraged rather than suppressed.

The strategy of tension is most closely identified with the Years of Lead in Italy from 1968–1982, wherein both far-left Marxist groups, far-right neo-fascist groups, and state agencies performed bombings, kidnappings, arsons, and murders.[1] Some historians and activists have accused NATO of allowing and sanctioning such terrorism, through projects such as Operation Gladio, although this is hotly disputed by the intelligence agencies involved and other historians.[2][3][4] Other cases where writers have alleged a strategy of tension include the deep state in Turkey from the 1970s–1990s ("Ergenekon"),[5] the war veteransand ZANU–PF in Zimbabwe which coordinated the farm invasions of 2000,[6] the DRSsecurity agency in Algeria from 1991 to 1999,[7] and the State Security Service (Belgium)during the 1982-1986 Belgian terrorist crisis.[8]