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Why was she conducting friendly interviews with Peter Thiel in 2014, Why was this OK in 2014 but in 2019 she called him "the dark overlord of Silicon Valley whose greatest hits include plotting for months to covertly destroy a news organisation"
 
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entrepreneurs with no scruples. Cambridge analytica. Destroying the soul of the nation. Skripal case. the list goes on and on.

Fundamentally all a very right wing and reactionary pushback - but this time conducted by left wingers. If Nick Land was right on one single thing it was this, and nothing else.
 
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I thought this was interesting,
Many progressive Christians, liberal Roman Catholics, Black Protestants, and left-leaning Jews have become more politically active during the outgoing administration of President Donald Trump, with places of worship offering asylum to immigrants targeted by his administration and congregants participating in health care and Black Lives Matter protests.
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“Social justice is the gospel of Jesus,” Jackson said. “He fed the poor, healed the sick.”

Left-leaning Christians have been forced to choose, said the Reverend Mark Sandlin, a Presbyterian minister in Greensboro, North Carolina, who helps run the nonprofit ecumenical group ProgressiveChristianity.org and “The Christian Left” website with about 400,000 members nationwide.

“You either believe that Christians should stay out of politics altogether and focus on the afterlife, or you think we should be involved in the here-and-now: social justice, economic justice, fight inequality,” Sandlin said.
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The situation represents “an evolution of democracy,” said Lawrence Carter, a historian who is a professor of theology and dean of the Martin Luther King Jr. International Chapel at Morehouse College in Atlanta, as well as a mentor and close friend of Warnock.
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Straddling Senate and pulpit, Warnock highlights religious left's rise in the U.S.

The Reverend Raphael Warnock will take the pulpit this Sunday morning at Atlanta's famed Ebenezer Baptist Church, just as he has for the past 15 years.
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Mr. Tea

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thirdform said:
Why was she conducting friendly interviews with Peter Thiel in 2014, Why was this OK in 2014 but in 2019 she called him "the dark overlord of Silicon Valley whose greatest hits include plotting for months to covertly destroy a news organisation"
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I dunno. Are people not allowed to change their mind? If you take a certain position at a certain time, are you therefore honour-bound to stick to it for ever, because if you change your position then people will say "Ha! You are inconsistent, and therefore not to be taken seriously"?

No idea what you're getting at about the Skripal case. Are you suggesting it wasn't a Russian state job? I thought you scorned all that sort of basic conspiracy-theory stuff.
 
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people are allowed to change their opinions alright. But when an unscrupulous journalist from Somerset pretends to be the voice of the oppressed and the marginalised whilst studiously ignoring them prior to the referendum, don't say it isn't a grift. Grifters can speak a lot of truth, of course, but that doesn't mean they aren't grifting.
 
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I note you ignored the Cody Wilson interview though. Which is far more damning. What, with you know, founding Hatreon. At least she could have maintained, a critical, skeptical distance. She did not do that. She was about to fellate him. (metaphorically of course.)
 
Mr. Tea

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thirdform said:
people are allowed to change their opinions alright. But when an unscrupulous journalist from Somerset pretends to be the voice of the oppressed and the marginalised whilst studiously ignoring them prior to the referendum, don't say it isn't a grift. Grifters can speak a lot of truth, of course, but that doesn't mean they aren't grifting.
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Has she ever done that, though? I've never seen her strike a particularly Marxist or otherwise hard-left stance.
 
Mr. Tea

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I don't think concern for the oppressed is the sole preserve of the far left or marxists.
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OK, fine, but my point is that for as long as I've been aware of her as a journalist, she's come across as a centrist whose main concern is high-level corruption, collusion between the governments and other entities in different countries in subverting democratic norms, and the role of media and big tech in all of this. Rather than economic or social justice per se.

Perhaps you can criticise her for ignoring all the other "ordinary" corruption that's not linked to Brexit/Trump/Putin, or being insufficiently critical of the EU and its own various faults, or whatever - but I've never seen her "pretending to be the voice of the oppressed". I mean, show me an article where she does that and I'll eat my words.
 
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