That evidence wasn't always in the public domain though, so would you have rubbished the idea at the time or considered it?
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luka
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was it the Jews?
WashYourHands
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The Welsh?
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craner
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There was stuff coming out by the 1960s.
shakahislop
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there's absolutely no way that the US government had some kind of secret agenda and really deeply wanted to find a way to invade afghanistan. they never gave a shit about afghanistan. that's a big part of the problem.
i get it with the Iraq argument. but to think that for some reason 9/11 was made to happen by the US gov because they for some reason wanted to do.....something....in afghanistan requires just totally ignoring every fact about what happened when they got there.
craner
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Yeah, shut up, Dad.
I meant if you were around at the time prior to anything making it out into the public domain. What would your response have been to someone claiming that was what was happening?
craner
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Well, I don't know, what do you mean? When the Piazza Fontana bomb went off?
shakahislop
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counting crows
shakahislop
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ryan adams too
luka
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youve got him cornered version, look how hes dodging
I feel you're being a bit obtuse here. I don't know how you can acknowledge something like Gladio, a proven conspiracy, as historical fact whilst also assuming a default position of blanket dismissal when it comes to conspiracy.
It's not as though Gladio's an outlier either. You can point to stuff like Operation Paperclip and MKUltra too. These are all things which sound unbelievable on the face of it, particularly MKUltra, but which turned out to be true. Iran-Contra's another. Some of the stuff that went on in Ireland, e.g.
www.theguardian.com
Satanic panic: how British agents stoked supernatural fears in Troubles
Stories about black masses leaked to press in effort to link paramilitary attacks to the paranormal, study reveals
www.theguardian.com
craner
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I can't answer it, in all honesty, but the 'Strategy of Tension' was widely discussed at the time and for perfectly plausible reasons. It was not a far-fetched theory, given the U.S. and NATO strategy in Europe. Technically speaking, the link between the CIA and the Italian far right terrorist groups has never been acknowledged or proven, but there is enough there to believe it was operational, both from the circumstantial, strategic and geopolitical context.
This is completely the opposite case for 9/11: the conspiracy narrative is totally nonsensical.