what does dialectical mean?
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Clinamenic
Binary & Tweed
The only known shared catchphrase of Grantees and Spaderites.
craner
Beast of Burden
I'd always hoped this would be Nomad, but it turned out to be Stan.
Clinamenic
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I didn't even have to bother catfishing you.
It's an inversion. the construction of reasoning grounded on the being rather than post-festum consciousness.
other_life
bioconfused
that's dialectical
other_life
bioconfused
male-male homosexuality is the most Dialectical of sexual styles
Clinamenic
Binary & Tweed
Do you think it works well with western science today? The being being a biological system?
Clinamenic
Binary & Tweed
Do you see this as a reflection of the culture, e.g. how analytical/anal anglos/anglo-adjacents can be? Primarily Irish myself, raised catholic. Maybe that influences how critical we can be of each other, and how a mutually critical partnership can give rise to this sort of dialectical experience.
Clinamenic
Binary & Tweed
The being studied as a system, yes, but still to keep the ideas distinct from their unnamable stimuli, our worlds - if that preconscious state is what is assumed to be more essential.
@thirdform Any similarity here to the distinction between sharia and fiqh? I assume those are general terms employed across Islam, and I assume you would know more about this than I, regardless of whether they touch you or not.
(edit: assumptions can be wrong, of course.)
I struggle to think of a similar distinction in Christianity, but I get a similar vibe from Judaism and what I take to be its reverent avoidance of the name of God. Keeping some heart of the faith system preserved from the interference of interpretation, a way of working an unmappable zone into the map, and often sufficing to account for infinity
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Clinamenic
Binary & Tweed
In the case of Judaism, the faith system would seem to have those letters of the name of God integrated into the system of gematria, perhaps with the numeral values - of the characters the name, and of the characters of the syncopated name - carry some significance, derived from the infinity organ of the system, the place too hallowed for the map to cover, or even try to cover
Clinamenic
Binary & Tweed
And yet, the system can manage to account for it, enough to communicate it.
other_life
bioconfused
no male-male homosexuality being 'the most dialectical of sexual styles' is animal and pre-cultural
Clinamenic
Binary & Tweed
So there's something more dialectical, or something that better lends itself to dialectical formulation, about male biology than female biology, assuming you mean that male-male homosexuality is more dialectical than female-female homosexuality?
I'm not sure I follow, but I don't see anything especially dialectical about it. I think such things are only as dialectical as we formulate them to be.
I'm not sure I follow, but I don't see anything especially dialectical about it. I think such things are only as dialectical as we formulate them to be.
Clinamenic
Binary & Tweed
And I say culture because that is the context in which we, as conscious organisms, would learn how to employ dialectics as a conceptual framework.
That isn't to say that homosexuality arises from the cultural sphere, as I am currently of the suspicion that there is a scientific basis for sexuality being biological, namely that it would have a genotype or maybe even some sort of phenotype somewhere. Just my working understanding of the science, for whatever the science may be worth.
A Sapolsky lecture at Stanford mentioned a study of some such phenotype, but I forget if it was a brain lobe shape or something else. Anyway it was said to conclusively correlate with self-reported sexuality, and was referenced jokingly on shirts sold at a pride event somewhere. I can track down the mention of it, if necessary.
That said I presume the self-reporting of the sexuality was likely parameterized under binary categories of homosexual and heterosexual, which may not be the case. If so, it could have conceivably skewed any conclusions drawn from it.
That isn't to say that homosexuality arises from the cultural sphere, as I am currently of the suspicion that there is a scientific basis for sexuality being biological, namely that it would have a genotype or maybe even some sort of phenotype somewhere. Just my working understanding of the science, for whatever the science may be worth.
A Sapolsky lecture at Stanford mentioned a study of some such phenotype, but I forget if it was a brain lobe shape or something else. Anyway it was said to conclusively correlate with self-reported sexuality, and was referenced jokingly on shirts sold at a pride event somewhere. I can track down the mention of it, if necessary.
That said I presume the self-reporting of the sexuality was likely parameterized under binary categories of homosexual and heterosexual, which may not be the case. If so, it could have conceivably skewed any conclusions drawn from it.
other_life
bioconfused
i am coming to dissensus to shitpost.
male-male homosexuality is dialectical [that is to say, all-sided because two-sided, comprehensive because zoned in] because i say it is refined because of male chauvinism [internalised]. or it is dialectical because knitting a dick into an ass is really difficult because of male uptightness. or it is dialectical because male uptightness is dissolved, the male becomes female and the female becomes male, the top is enveloped and the bottom is the seeker to envelope. my prostate is well and aroused and yet the phallic centers of my sex are become liquid, soft but not impotent - the exit is an entrance, the passive entry seeks with many feelers and the sword of a man is the effluence of a chalice. male-male homosexuality is dialectical because things change sex in the mirror.
male-male homosexuality is dialectical [that is to say, all-sided because two-sided, comprehensive because zoned in] because i say it is refined because of male chauvinism [internalised]. or it is dialectical because knitting a dick into an ass is really difficult because of male uptightness. or it is dialectical because male uptightness is dissolved, the male becomes female and the female becomes male, the top is enveloped and the bottom is the seeker to envelope. my prostate is well and aroused and yet the phallic centers of my sex are become liquid, soft but not impotent - the exit is an entrance, the passive entry seeks with many feelers and the sword of a man is the effluence of a chalice. male-male homosexuality is dialectical because things change sex in the mirror.
other_life
bioconfused
female-female homosexuality is a sexuality with no need for dialectics. as a transgender woman lesbianism is a horizon for me, there is always more of it. i understand male-male homosexuality better because i was born there and ruptured through.
other_life
bioconfused
the primal scene of man mounting man is, again, a pre-cultural and animal revulsion. it is the thing that should not be, it is the type of all to'evah. all social/religious prohibition of homosexuality is so much scaffolding, so many fictions, so much shielding carapace against its light (which is, really, too much).
men started having sex with men to sate the appetites of a watching woman. she thought men having sex with each other would be funny. it was a lark in gan eden
men started having sex with men to sate the appetites of a watching woman. she thought men having sex with each other would be funny. it was a lark in gan eden
