Jimmy Falun Gong did that somewhere in the Marilyn Monroe thread. This is one of them,ive noticed. i just wish theyd tell us the material they are drawing on as im sure its not deep in the archive stuff, just a few
salacious paperbacks is my guess
That wouldn't be very good for their brand though. There's a certain mystique to dropping this information as though they're plugged in in some fashion and not just reading a few books you can buy on Amazon, plus they're trying to hang onto subscribers and build an audience.ive noticed. i just wish theyd tell us the material they are drawing on as im sure its not deep in the archive stuff, just a few
salacious paperbacks is my guess
Not that most people would actually read the books, mind you. Those threads where they cut out all the juicy bits and chase down the clippings are exciting and much quicker and easier to read.That wouldn't be very good for their brand though. There's a certain mystique to dropping this information as though they're plugged in in some fashion and not just reading a few books you can buy on Amazon, plus they're trying to hang onto subscribers and build an audience.
The cover of that Marilyn Monroe book does give me a Craner feel; Hollywood Babylon vibes.
I've been trying to pin down exactly what it is that makes some stuff feel like basically being realistic about how the world works, while other stuff feels inherently crackpot. Like, it's essentially some combination of how many people are involved and how outrageous the stuff that they're meant to be doing is.Really amazing podcast IMO. The one about Henry Ford is an eye popper. It's kinda Gravity's Rainbow territory with IG Farben etc. I like this sort of stuff because it's in the same space as conspiracy theories but it's actually well researched, thoughtful, shows an understanding of "deep structures" without slipping off into lizard people padeo paranoia territory.
Judge also got fed up with people DMing him for reading lists and tweeted one a while back,ive noticed. i just wish theyd tell us the material they are drawing on as im sure its not deep in the archive stuff, just a few
salacious paperbacks is my guess
Yes, I think that's very well put. There was an essay in Lobster about this - it says something like politics is essentially conspiratorial i.e. small groups of people band together and attempt to exert influence without democratic scrutiny. The difference between that and "meta-conspiracies" is you have to believe these secret groups have disproportionate power and also that they exercise it cohesively over time.I've been trying to pin down exactly what it is that makes some stuff feel like basically being realistic about how the world works, while other stuff feels inherently crackpot. Like, it's essentially some combination of how many people are involved and how outrageous the stuff that they're meant to be doing is.
For instance, you could kind-of peg Gramsci's theory of hegemony as a "conspiracy theory" because it's essentially about a whole class of people colluding to achieve something, but you wouldn't because it's basically an emergent property of a whole load of little bits of locally plausible, self-interested behavior. Whereas MK Ultra at the opposite end of the scale involved explicitly coordinated and obviously shady stuff, but the people doing the shady stuff were basically a relatively small number of operatives of the US Government's Department for Shady Stuff, so again, it doesn't feel that out there. Whereas when you work it through, proper crackpot stuff tends to need you to believe in a whole load of people having been strongarmed into doing stuff that's way outside what they'd normally do without anyone speaking up...
Same with Covid stuff. Yeah these guys developed a very specific bioweapon, kept it secret and also coordinated a global release program.Yeah, like the flat earth and climate change stuff where you have to believe that more or less every single scientist in the world and stretching back decades is somehow in on it.
i like that stuff a lot because its sort of the ultimate degree of paranoia. you should try and seriously think about this while tripping. its good. instructive and very vertiginous.Yeah, like the flat earth and climate change stuff where you have to believe that more or less every single scientist in the world and stretching back decades is somehow in on it.