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Leo

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a few more posts with large confusing anonymous charts and we'll enter the homestretch final 10 pages.

I'd love to see graphic representations of hospitalizations and deaths for each month since it all kicked off, if anyone has them handy.
 

Slothrop

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Is vaccine efficacy a statistical illusion? - an academic analysis; in short, we would see the same efficacy stats using pure placebo because of [statistics]

To be specific, we'd see the same death rate due to non-virus causes for unvaccinated people using pure placebo. He specifically avoids including virus-related deaths in the graphs "to remove the virus signal", and avoids doing any comparisons involving virus-related deaths. For some reason.

But I'm sure you noticed that when you read it critically before posting.
 

mixed_biscuits

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To be specific, we'd see the same death rate due to non-virus causes for unvaccinated people using pure placebo. He specifically avoids including virus-related deaths in the graphs "to remove the virus signal", and avoids doing any comparisons involving virus-related deaths. For some reason.

But I'm sure you noticed that when you read it critically before posting.
Take it up with him and see how you go
 

mixed_biscuits

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not a very convincing comeback, mixed. c'mon, clock's ticking.
Well, @Slothrop just bandies around insinuations without showing his working, while forgetting that Pfizer's trial results were doctored. Also, the author's expertise far outstrips anybody's here - funny how the Dissensus NPCs suddenly abandon the trust-the-experts mantra.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Well, @Slothrop just bandies around insinuations without showing his working, while forgetting that Pfizer's trial results were doctored. Also, the author's expertise far outstrips anybody's here - funny how the Dissensus NPCs suddenly abandon the trust-the-experts mantra.
"Trust this one guy who agrees with me, and not those other experts who make up the entire worldwide medical establishment."

This is the conspiracy theory mindset in a nutshell. The few people who share my worldview are right because they are so few - the lone voices in the wilderness! The Galileos, Darwins and Einsteins of epidemiology! Meanwhile, the establishment is dismissed precisely because it is the establishment; hopelessly compromised and wrong about everything, by definition. Globetards. Mooncucks.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
To be specific, we'd see the same death rate due to non-virus causes for unvaccinated people using pure placebo. He specifically avoids including virus-related deaths in the graphs "to remove the virus signal", and avoids doing any comparisons involving virus-related deaths. For some reason.

But I'm sure you noticed that when you read it critically before posting.
I salute your perseverance, as I didn't actually get that far into it, but does he actually seek to show the vaccine is no better than the placebo by ignoring deaths from the virus?
 

IdleRich

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Yeah, I'm not getting sucked back into this thread... but Slothrop does he really "remove the virus signal?" - that is truly mind-blowing if so. That would be the perfect bombshell end to the thread.
 

Mr. Tea

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"If this is not a statistical illusion how is it possible that the unvaccinated are dying from non-covid causes at a higher rate than vaccinated?" asks Professor Statistics.

Well might it have something to do with the fact that very elderly and/or sick people were prioritized for early vaccination - the cohort who are bound to have the highest mortality rates, covid or no covid? And that those who are still unvaccinated are either kids who haven't been offered it yet, or refuseniks who are most likely to be in their 20s or 30s?
 

mixed_biscuits

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"If this is not a statistical illusion how is it possible that the unvaccinated are dying from non-covid causes at a higher rate than vaccinated?" asks Professor Statistics.

Well might it have something to do with the fact that very elderly and/or sick people were prioritized for early vaccination - the cohort who are bound to have the highest mortality rates, covid or no covid? And that those who are still unvaccinated are either kids who haven't been offered it yet, or refuseniks who are most likely to be in their 20s or 30s?
Just-so stories over experts - nice one
 
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