padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
Like if you're gonna make zero attention span, 1000 open tabs, post everything music for fuck's sake make it fun

I'd encourage all the yung ppl, Americans or otherwise, who haven't to back before jungle and listen to breakbeat hardcore aka ardkore and adjacent things ca 1991-late 1992/early 93 - there's gotta be a million threads if you like. I'm taking big labels like Suburban Base, Reinforced, White House Records, etc as well as, if you dig around, a million obscurities of varying degree. That is, far more than jungle, full-on kitchen sink maximalism, big dumb pianos, rave stabs, chipmunk helium vocals, etc. Often amateurish, always bursting with life, the opposite of the OP ghost in the machine business.

DJ Red Alert + Mike Slammer, Manix, basically all the early Suburban Base stuff, aren't bad places to start. And The Prodigy of course, thru 92 at least
 

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
And if you're gonna - fair play - call out a bunch of old dudes for basically telling you to get off their lawn (also not to be the hazing police but that nonce stuff is 1) never funny, including this time 2) only an in-joke if both parties are in on it) you gotta bring some heat, not the musical equivalent - imo - of like, corporate office art
 

bassbeyondreason

Chtonic Fatigue Syndrome
Should mention that I actually got round to listening to the stuff in the first tweet and it's quite bland and genteel, not the bandcamp delinquency I was bigging up.
 

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
Like how the Neon Screams stuff is a step beyond the simple cyborgism of the vocoder/early autotune, this music can go beyond the machine-music paradigm into a Deleuzean mess of erotics, or a reaching for the Noumenal like Renaissance polyphony.
Like I think this is a good post and you had multiple good points but I have strongly disagree that OP is erotic at all, let alone a mess of erotics. It's if anything totally de-eroticized, the body taken out of body music (again see also IDM etc). Which idk is probably also Deleuzean, but totally removed from the vitality, and messiness, of the erotic.

Reaching for the noumenal I can see more but idk, that Renaissance stuff is reaching for yunno the sacred whereas this is reaching for idk...like a kitsch retro take on 80s cyberpunk notion of "cyberspace" as more than the sum of its parts, literal ghosts in the machine
 

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
Should mention that I actually got round to listening to the stuff in the first tweet and it's quite bland and genteel, not the bandcamp delinquency I was bigging up.
Oh word I see that makes more sense

Did u toss in some links/examples upthread, and if not could u? My interest has been peaked.
 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
um, possibly not. but there's still time, they might come back. it's like SAS training only a tiny percentage make it through.

tbf you got carried away and started acting like an uncouth manchester united fan.

I know for a fact that if you didn't have an attachment to East London you'd be living it up with Liam Gallagher the cunt, so acting like a yanited fan is still better than acting like a city bovine.
 

bassbeyondreason

Chtonic Fatigue Syndrome
Like I think this is a good post and you had multiple good points but I have strongly disagree that OP is erotic at all, let alone a mess of erotics. It's if anything totally de-eroticized, the body taken out of body music (again see also IDM etc). Which idk is probably also Deleuzean, but totally removed from the vitality, and messiness, of the erotic.

Reaching for the noumenal I can see more but idk, that Renaissance stuff is reaching for yunno the sacred whereas this is reaching for idk...like a kitsch retro take on 80s cyberpunk notion of "cyberspace" as more than the sum of its parts, literal ghosts in the machine
Oh the operative word in that post is really "can", as in it's not simply an aesthetic dead-end or retread of 90s cyberculture. I'm working on stuff adjacent to a lot of this though so I'm hardly impartial, but that's my project.
 

bassbeyondreason

Chtonic Fatigue Syndrome
This is the stuff I posted earlier:

The last two in particular are pretty goofy but IMO actually funny and absurd.
 

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
like a kitsch retro take on 80s cyberpunk notion of "cyberspace" as more than the sum of its parts, literal ghosts in the machine
Like this stuff could soundtrack anytime Case talks to Wintermute in Neuromancer

Tbf there is a late classic era, like mid-late 95, jungle track by some B or C-tier producer (I don't remember who) that is a hilarious, extremely 1995 on "cyberspace". Wish I could remember the name, it's by someone like T Power but less good I think.
 

luka

Well-known member
tbf you got carried away and started acting like an uncouth manchester united fan.

I know for a fact that if you didn't have an attachment to East London you'd be living it up with Liam Gallagher the cunt, so acting like a yanited fan is still better than acting like a city bovine.
this is a man who went to the trouble of recording a ten minute long voice message for Gus about stuffing a cheese sandwich up his mothers cunt!
 

luka

Well-known member
a personalised voice message about doing the most and perverse things to his dear old mother and then posted it here! now that is going over the top!
 

luka

Well-known member
i mean, i dont care, but dont start trying to scold me like a school teacher cos youre the last person in the world whos allowed to talk!
 

bassbeyondreason

Chtonic Fatigue Syndrome
Also funny how ephemeral a lot of this stuff can be, that mix is 18 months old and some of the tracks have disappeared from the internet completely. Celebrate the New Digital Dark Age!
P.S. How fucking on the nose is "Hyperneurotica - Boring Ghosts" for an artist/title!
 
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